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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Won't matter much; Chinese EVs are so inexpensively made, especially with subsidies, while exceeding European and American auto safety standards that tariffs for the last five years haven't stopped them expanding outside of Asia.

In addition, EVs are so much cheaper to produce, run and maintain for auto companies that tariffs aren't going to make much of a difference stemming the continued EV manufacturing explosion.

Capacity and range will just keep going up, any tariffs have so far been and will be footnotes in EV story rather than any sort of relevant market mechanism

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Chinese EV sounds terrifying. I am sure the specific cars they sent for safety testing were well made and passed just fine, but I wouldn't get into their production run vehicles.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nah, these are the exact standards US/euro cars are tested by, tested annually from regular production, not specially chosen cars.

Besides, it isn't like American or European companies didn't make production line cars that literally blew up if they rear-ended someone.

So far the manufacturing of exported Chinese EVs is doing very well, and each product is tested upon import anyway to make sure it conforms to the regulations of that country.

Tanking a potential market like this for the Chinese doesn't make any sense right now, at least outside of their country it makes the most corporate and political sense to do what they're doing and exceed European and American auto safety standards.

You should be more concerned about privacy invasion from the smart tech rather than the physical safety of the vehicles.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol -1 points 3 months ago

Who do you think manufactures basically everything at this point? Even frickin food is being imported from China.

That being said I'd love for American competition, heck I'd just like the Elio I always wanted if it wasn't for fricking Hummer. And Teslas have been built like garbage for the past couple years now.

It being manufactured in China does not make it a quality issue unless the profit seeking is maxed out. Otherwise it just makes it like everything else being made over there which is it's own problem.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My point is the the EU ans US are shooting themselves in the foot in a big way with these idiotic tariffs. The Chinese will just clean up in all other markets and if they retaliate, the EU will lose their most important export market, which is China.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think the US is hoping to buy itself some time while their EV manufacturing catches up, but they aren't being practical about the limited effect of these tariffs and aren't making the necessary domestic investments so far to compete with the level of manufacture the Chinese are at and the level the Japanese and a few other countries will be at in 5 years.

The market is still going to end up with safe, affordable EVs sooner than anyone thought, so I can't get too worked up about the US not jumping into the race.

If they don't want to catch up, then they get left behind.

They let others manufacture their TVs, computers, and toilet paper, it's not unlikely they'll let their national auto industry die as well.