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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 68 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

just about as many people smoked as didn't, back in the day. if you didn't smoke, you still had ashtrays in the house, for when people came to visit.

when they first tried to control smoking on planes, it wasn't "no smoking at all" it was "let's at least have a non-smoking section"--it was seen as absurd that there even be a corner of the plane where one couldn't smoke.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I’ve read that aircraft mechanics were sad when smoking stopped because the nicotine smears on the aircraft were such a good visual clue of where air was leaking and it made theirs jobs a lot easier.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

holy shit that's disgusting. saying that as a former smoker

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But is it as disgusting as rapid depressurization?

[–] MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

False binary, though? It's not have smoking or have rapid depressurization...

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Clearly you've never tried to quit smoking before...

[–] MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are...you making a joke or serious? I genuinely can't tell...

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yea it was a semi serious joke. Cause smoking is hard to shake. And also wanted to be snarky. I wasn't trying to be a dick.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Nah can't be caught being too serious

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

More disgusting less distressing

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm renovating a house that was last inhabited by smokers. My first attempt at painting inside led to the just-applied paint flowing down from the tops of the walls overnight.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've helped renovate several smoker houses. Use Killz paint or a similar product, it works. Wear a mask, the fumes from that shit will fuck you up.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Before I repainted the "flowing" areas I wiped them down with mineral spirits and that seemed to do the trick.

Is that why Boeing’s quality went downhill?

/s

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I was on a plane in the very early 90's, and I remember being about 10 years old and the second the 'smoking okay' sign came on, a WALL of smoke rolled back through the curtains that separated the sections.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

yea, the "non-smoking" bit was a complete joke, especially on planes. restaurants were slightly better, but the smoke still went everywhere

they had to start somewhere though, and as powerful as big tobacco was at the time, it's kind of a miracle that they got anything changed at all

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I first started eating out regularly in the '80s, and even now I will occasionally randomly ask to be seated in a restaurant's non-smoking section. It's surreal to think that was ever a thing.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I'm starting to forget that these things existed, because I'm old enough to remember a time when there was such a thing as a smoking/non-smoking section in restaurants but it feels like an entire lifetime ago that it was actually relevant to the point now where it would be a massive culture shock to see somebody light up indoors anywhere, let alone in a restaurant.

I like to point to indoor smoking bans and seatbelt laws as actual evidence of how a culture war backed up with science and facts can be sustained and won even against seemingly insurmountable odds to the benefit of society as a whole. In both of those cases, the data eventually won out against the multibillion dollar industries that were resisting regulation as well as the "muh freedom" crowd.