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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I thought the muscular guys were supposed to be right in these memes.

[–] myslsl@lemmy.world 64 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He is right. 1 approximates 1 to any accuracy you like.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Is it true to say that two numbers that are equal are also approximately equal?

[–] SpeakerToLampposts@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

I recall an anecdote about a mathematician being asked to clarify precisely what he meant by "a close approximation to three". After thinking for a moment, he replied "any real number other than three".

[–] mpa92643@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Approximately equal" is just a superset of "equal" that also includes values "acceptably close" (using whatever definition you set for acceptable).

Unless you say something like:

a ≈ b ∧ a ≠ b

which implies a is close to b but not exactly equal to b, it's safe to presume that a ≈ b includes the possibility that a = b.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can I get a citation on this? Because it doesn't pass the sniff test for me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approximation

[–] mpa92643@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

ISO is not a source for mathematical definitions

[–] mpa92643@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a definition from a well-respected global standards organization. Can you name a source that would provide a more authoritative definition than the ISO?

There's no universally correct definition for what the ≈ symbol means, and if you write a paper or a proof or whatever, you're welcome to define it to mean whatever you want in that context, but citing a professional standards organization seems like a pretty reliable way to find a commonly-accepted and understood definition.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Tbh I'm just impressed you:

A) knew there was an iso standard

  1. went to the effort of locating it

iii) posted it in respectful manner, and

e) are correct.

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

assert np.isClose(3, 3)

[–] myslsl@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, informally in the sense that the error between the two numbers is "arbitrarily small". Sometimes in introductory real analysis courses you see an exercise like: "prove if x, y are real numbers such that x=y, then for any real epsilon > 0 we have |x - y| < epsilon." Which is a more rigorous way to say roughly the same thing. Going back to informality, if you give any required degree of accuracy (epsilon), then the error between x and y (which are the same number), is less than your required degree of accuracy

It depends on the convention that you use, but in my experience yes; for any equivalence relation, and any metric of "approximate" within the context of that relation, A=B implies A≈B.

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Nah. They are supposed to not care about stuff and just roll with it without any regrets.

It's just like the wojak crying with the mask on, but not crying behind it.

There's plenty of cases of memes where the giga chad is just plainly wrong, but they just don't care. But it's not supposed to be in a troll way. The giga chad applies what it believes in. If you want a troll, there's troll face, who speak with the confidence of a giga chad, but know he is bullshiting