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[–] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hard disagree. Hate speech shouldn't be censored. I believe in freedom of speech. Prosecuting people for "hate speech" misunderstands what freedom of speech is.

As long as you don't threaten direct harm to a particular individual, you should not be censored or punished for it. If you do threaten harm to a particular person, you should not be censored but instead restrained, and what you said should be noted down and preserved for the date of a fair trial.

One person being upset shouldn't mean the other (who didn't know any better) has to spend the rest of their formative years in prison.

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s easier to have to position that absolute free speech is the best solution if you are not part of a minority group who is the target of hate speech. (Not saying you aren’t)

The definition is tricky and if such law should exist it should have a good margin from being used for arbitrary “I was offended” type of offenses.

I don’t think prison, as you suggested, is a reasonable consequence either.

[–] growingentropy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The repercussion to bad speech and ideas is inherent to the current paradigm of the internet: downvotes and ostracization.

Maybe they will wind up on their own forum saying despicable shit, but they were probably going to do that anyway. Bad ideas love a vacuum away from prying eyes and outsiders.

[–] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It can lead to prison in some countries (more than I imagine you'd think), which I think is very bad.

Also, the opposite of what you're describing can happen. Governments and big media/tech companies can use censorship to prevent ideas they don't like from spreading online.

[–] growingentropy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Yes, absolutely. We should all be concerned with the source of our ideas and even our memes, as dumb of a concept as that is.