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Is it practically impossible for a newcomer selfhost without using centralised services, and get DDOSed or hacked? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Maroon@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I understand that people enter the world of self hosting for various reasons. I am trying to dip my toes in this ocean to try and get away from privacy-offending centralised services such as Google, Cloudflare, AWS, etc.

As I spend more time here, I realise that it is practically impossible; especially for a newcomer, to setup any any usable self hosted web service without relying on these corporate behemoths.

I wanted to have my own little static website and alongside that run Immich, but I find that without Cloudflare, Google, and AWS, I run the risk of getting DDOSed or hacked. Also, since the physical server will be hosted at my home (to avoid AWS), there is a serious risk of infecting all devices at home as well (currently reading about VLANS to avoid this).

Am I correct in thinking that avoiding these corporations is impossible (and make peace with this situation), or are there ways to circumvent these giants and still have a good experience self hosting and using web services, even as a newcomer (all without draining my pockets too much)?

Edit: I was working on a lot of misconceptions and still have a lot of learn. Thank you all for your answers.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The DDOSED hype on this site is so over played. Oh my god my little self hosted services are going to get attacked. Is it technically possible yes but it hasn’t been my experience.

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

DDoSing cost the attacker some time and resources so there has to something in it for them.

Random servers on the internet are subject to lots of drive-by vuln scans and brute force login attempts, but not DDoS, which are most costly to execute.

[–] tills13@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

99% of people think they are more important than they are.

If you THINK you might be the victim of an attack like this, you're not going to be a victim of an attack like this. If you KNOW you'll be the victim of an attack like this on the other hand...

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Many of us also lived through the era where any 13 year old could steal Mommy's credit card and rent a botnet for that ezpz

My MC server a decade ago was tiny and it still happened every few months when we banned some butthurt kid