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A Map of Native Names v0.1: an ongoing project of mine (www.google.com)

submitted 11 months ago by alyaza@beehaw.org to c/humanities@beehaw.org

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awhile back i did a brief post on native names for major cities for the website Cohost. anyways, i've spent approximately the past week assembling place names for a much more comprehensive map--as of writing, more than 1,000 individual points from approximately 60 different sources are listed--and you can find that at the submission link here.

this is what i'm calling v. 0.1 of this project and pretty much the moment this post goes up i'll be back to adding new names. because this is such a large project i've only gotten around to a handful of states in great detail—but rest assured, a lot more is coming. the next big part of the map in progress is the Ojibwe sphere of influence which should knock out most of the Great Lakes area.

any errors or corrections you happen to notice are appreciated

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[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why not OpenStreetMap or leaflet.js? Google is proprietary and you can't easily share your data.

Do you also do places outside of the US? There's lots of names of German cities which are not on maps.

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For the interest of interoperability though; It would be cool to see this map exported/migrated to a supported interoperable format so that people may, if they choose, view it on the mapping engine of their choice.

It's definitely not a huge priority though; but a nice-to-have that we might hope for by version 1.0 at least.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, that's a good idea. I don't know if you can easily export things from Google, but at least as a backup for the future it'd be nice to simply throw a file somewhere people can download.

EDIT: seems to be possible: https://support.google.com/mymaps/answer/3109452

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

i cannot begin to tell you how uninterested i am in having a discussion about what platform to use on this post, holy shit not everything has to be about your axe to grind with [Company]

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't answer my question and you're being rude, as usual.

It's easier to use this in other projects when the license is free and you have a data format you can export.

You're intentionally making it harder to do anything useful with your data.

If you don't care, that's fine. If your reason is that other platforms are hard to use, that's also a fine reason. If you like to suck Google's cock, that's also valid. But answering with an empty comment is less useful than not answering at all.

Next time please just ignore the question if you're uninterested.

[–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I understand the reaction. I'm sure you didn't mean it this way, but I have seen a number of times on beehaw and constantly on other lemmy instances situations where someone will post something cool that they did, and the comments are all complaining about the poster not using FOSS software to do that thing. I understand that Lemmy is very popular with FOSS communities but sometimes people just want to make a thing and they don't want to spend all of their time wrestling with the tool they use to make it. I'm sympathetic with the idea of FOSS, but sometimes the gatekeeping is very off-putting.

And, FWIW I believe that Google Maps exports to KMZ/KML which are open standards for geospatial data.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I also understand the reaction, it was still a bit rude and could have been omitted from public record.