Think of how many souls could have been saved if you didn't waste the church's time investigating all those abusive priests! Truly the investigators are sinners on a staggering scale!
Evinceo
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It almost reads as a threat... 'don't stop our gravy train, or we'll lash out and reveal what we know!'
I wish you were joking but they literally say this in the post:
At that hourly rate, he spent perhaps ~$130,000 of Lightcone donors’ money on [investigating us]. But it’s more than that. When you factor in our time, plus hundreds/thousands of comments across all the posts, it’s plausible Ben’s negligence cost EA millions of dollars of lost productivity. If his accusations were true, that could have potentially been a worthwhile use of time - it's just that they aren't, and so that productivity is actually destroyed. [...]
Even if it was just $1 million, that wipes out the yearly contribution of 200 hardworking earn-to-givers who sacrificed, scrimped and saved to donate $5,000 this year.
Also this:
Have you ever made a social gaff? Does the idea of somebody exclusively looking for and publishing negative things about you make you feel uneasy? Terrified?
(spooky hands)
I actually played this game with some of my friends to see how easy it was. I tried to say only true things but in a way that made them look like villains. It was terrifyingly easy. Even for one of my oldest friends, who is one of the more universally-liked EAs, I could make him sound like a terrifying creep.
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I could do this for any EA org. I know of so many conflicts in EA that if somebody pulled a Ben Pace on, it would explode in a similar fashion.
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I cannot wade through this, so I'm just scrolling around aimlessly.
About 10% of the time was doing laundry, groceries, packing, and cooking - and she has to do many of those things for herself anyways! At least this is on paid time, feels high impact, and means she’s not sitting in front of the computer all day.
Feels high impact wtf.
“First they came for one EA leader, and I did not speak out -- because I just wanted to focus on making AI go well.
Then they came for another, and I did not speak out -- because surely these are just the aftershocks of FTX, it will blow over.
Then they came for another, and I still did not speak out -- because I was afraid for my reputation if they came after me.
Then they came for me - and I have no reputation to protect anymore.”
How very tasteful, a Niemöller snowclone Godwin. Truly people who party on the beach for charity and have hot tub meetings are the most oppressed.
Maybe it was because Alice was microdosing LSD nearly every day, sleeping just a few hours a night, and has a lifelong pattern of seeing persecution everywhere.
What an insane way to talk about a former employee, much less one living with you. Pro tip for real businesses: never do this. If you're going to disparage someone like this, it's a job for your lawyer and he'd better have receipts. Also don't live with your employees and let them take acid on the job.
What a major coinkeydink that the same discussion is happening on a totally unrelated and unaffiliated forum. 🙄
Buried in a mountain of polite disclaimers and faux intellectual humility, we have this absolutely damning information which could have been the whole article:
Alice was polyamorous, and she and Drew entered into a casual romantic relationship. Kat previously had a polyamorous marriage that ended in divorce, and is now monogamously partnered with Emerson. Kat reportedly told Alice that she didn't mind polyamory "on the other side of the world”, but couldn't stand it right next to her, and probably either Alice would need to become monogamous or Alice should leave the organization.
This Drew character was fucking the intern? No mention of any sort of ethical entanglement regarding having casual sex with your live-in employee. Think of the utilitons you save by hiring a maid/grocery getter to have sex with instead of wasting your valuable genius-minutes actually dating.
The lack of commentary regarding it (there's one sitting at -15 that points out the obvious) makes me wonder if this sort of thing is the norm in EA circles.
Ok, I got a chunk of the way through it, they're running it less like a nonprofit and more like the fucking mansion family, what a horror show.
Alice and Chloe report that they were advised not to spend time with ‘low value people’, including their families, romantic partners, and anyone local to where they were staying, with the exception of guests/visitors that Nonlinear invited. Alice and Chloe report this made them very socially dependent on Kat/Emerson/Drew and otherwise very isolated.
Like if this was a journalist piece the first paragraph would contain 'cult' and it would relate this example, not make me wade through an entire section about his sit down interview with a Member Of The Family.
This is a 60 minute post. Nobody proofread this. They're hoping few people will read the whole thing, and they're probably right.