I confirm. Source: I'm Italian:):):)
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I grew up north of the toxic belt, and it's my firm opinion that Italian food is overrated. Well, except Parmesan, I'll give them that.
Lasagna is like a moussaka with too much tomato sauce and layers of pasta that should've been skipped.
Anyone who downvotes this is either Italian, or has a fetish for mashed tomatoes.
Downvoted. I'm Italian. Nevertheless. De gustibus non disputandum est. But quality ingredients and culture make all the difference. Fun fact: I eat pasta once a month and pizza twice a year. Yet Italian and Spanish ingredients beat ingredients/produce from any other other European country.
This is kinda funny, and I know the concept of "authentic" isn't particularly easy to nail down, but my experience is that Italian lasagna doesn't have tomato sauce. It's always been thin pasta, a ragu, and bechamel. It generally changes to match the tastes and ingredients of where it's being made, but maybe you'd like the version I know.
I had moussaka in Greece a few years ago and liked it too!
But Ragu is a kind of tomato sauce.... Sure, it's got a lot of meat, but doesn't it always have tomato?
Ragu is a general term for meat sauces some of which have tomatoes but not all. The recipe I use I wouldn't call a "tomato sauce" but it has tomatoes. In the US most ragus are much more tomato forward if that's your frame of reference.
I mean, it may not be the best, but this puts portugal in a very bad position when we are all mediterranean with mostly the same ingredients.
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According to this map I should probably be dead.
Wow this is the most triggering post I've seen in a while and that's saying a lot in these times
About "fattening": yes, pasta is.
I second this map.
This tracks, every Italian I've ever met has been a complete snob about food.
Man y'all have clearly never eaten in Lyon...