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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 120 points 4 months ago (35 children)
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[–] linkshandig@lemm.ee 63 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

Eh, pretty much this. Think about the problems we have been facing, and then consider whether there has been any progress toward making them better. Climate change, no. Access to housing and medical care, no. Economic disparity, no. Political polarization and fascist sentiments, no. Extend those lines into the future, and, realistically, things are only getting worse.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We slotted into the wrong timeline when Al gore lost.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I try not to go down that rabbit hole. 9/11 possibly doesn't happen and that changes everything.

Or even better, Carter wins a second term in 1980, no trickle down economics. Corporations are kept under control. Taxes on ultra wealthy stay in place...

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 33 points 4 months ago

Every year is worse now, sorry.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The result of the US elections are the tipping point either way for the whole world, and every country is awaiting what will happen.

One side drops the world in misery, from the full destruction of Ukraine and it's people, to an intense war in the EU and the Koreas.Taiwan as a country will cease to exist, as will its chip production. Not to mention the deep scarring that will take place within the US itself where it will see the Constitution torn up. America First, but as a consequence it loses power and status everywhere else for years to come.

The other possibility is that starting in 2025 the current big worldwide conflicts will be resolved semi peacefully, a slow growth to more financial prosperity and equality sets in plus a number of billionaires will need to pay some of their taxes, but international treaties and trades will be reinforced.

I am really hoping for the latter, because if the outcome is the first, we'll see a least a decade of chaos and economic downfall everywhere.

So, my choice is made, it will be better in 2025

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 4 months ago

Im somewhat of a doomer and I see a steady overall decline. so for me its a choice of a lot worse or a little worse which is also a no brainer for me because I prefer slightly bad to real bad but Im wierd like that.

[–] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Every year, fewer people starve, and more children live to adulthood

So, even if it feels pointless, do the little things that make the world better. The effects will only be noticeable when enough people join, but every step counts and has the chance to motivate others

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[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

All hinges on whether Trump wins imo

[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Probably the only statement that literally everyone can agree on, just not mean the same thing.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 months ago

Some parts will be better, others will be worse

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Depends on where you live. If you're in the United States, you should definitely be preparing for a imminent incoming recession.

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[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm hoping it'll be better for me despite everything going on politically. I should be done with a treatment that, fingers tentatively crossed, will help my depression, my therapist just entered a pact with me and we're both gonna start walking four times a week at minimum, and I'll hopefully have dropped the ten pounds in trying to lose by then.

Of course, I'm American, so probably none of this matters if the GOP takes control. People like me are first on the chopping block for conservative genocide, and part of project 2025 is to completely eliminate any and all legal protections for people like me.

So, I hope it'll be better and I won't get hate murdered. Fingers crossed!

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[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least in the US, depends on how the elections go in November. It’s another nail biter and I’m not sure which way the election will go, but I am reasonably sure of the paths that follows each option.

As for the rest of the world, I’ve got my own problems.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

At least in the US, depends on how the elections go in November.

US, Taiwan, Ukraine, Poland, Baltics, Europe as a whole...

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

When I was a kid, and a teen, I was optimistic. I always felt that things could only get better. Why? Because as humans we all work towards things getting better. So they would. Because how could they not??? Billions of people all working together in unity, for a better tomorrow. What could go wrong???

I did not take one key piece of information into account. The fact that people are ASSHOLES!!!

I was imagining a world where internet speeds get faster and faster. And with new advancements would come new technologies. I imagined a world where you could prick yourself the same way diabetes patients do, dip a strip into your blood, and it would use the internet to tell you all your health issues instantly, and for cheap.

I imagined a world where cars were solar powered, and came with butt massagers.

I imagined a world where nobody smoked cigerettes. Which would lead to a massive decrease in cancer.

I imagined a world where teleportation were possible. Transport yourself from NYC to Sydney in 3 seconds.

I imagined all these crazy things that might be possible if all the top minds were all working like a collective hive to solve the pressing issues.

But I forgot people were assholes. Everything is political. People would rather a good idea didn't happen if they couldn't take credit for it....even if they had nothing to do with it.

People would rather large populations starve, and suffer from preventitive diseases if they can't profit from the solutions.

People would rather willingly go forward with known bad ideas if it meant their enemies suffer with them through the bad times too.

So adult me knows that NO. The future is not bright. It's not a fear of the unknown. It's an educated guess of the obvious. The world is shit. It's always been shit. It's always going to be shit.

Adult me is sad.

[–] Karcinogen@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Camzing@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hope you are right. I don't agree though.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It depends, and there’s no middle ground ….

  • I have a great job but we might go public in 2025. So cue the layoffs
  • National Politics will have more impact on our lives than ever: will it be fascism trying to break give or will it be a democracy trying to improve our lives?
  • My youngest is graduating high school in 2025: lots of pride but an empty lonely home and huge tuition bills coming my way
[–] decended_being@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

If you don't already know a close crew of friends, I would suggest starting an Empty Nesters In Training group.

Get together once or twice a month or so, makes the transition easier for when your kid graduates HS for college.

And also good luck with the job!

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[–] Audacious@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Like any kingdom, really depends on the king that rules. Trump will form the Nazi party and start stripping away more balances of power, but Biden will hopefully start restoring the democracy.

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It will be a test that none of us have the answers for. And that is a scary thought.

[–] Camzing@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've lived through the cold War, have followed geopolitics for over 30 years, it has never been this hot.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Me too and agreed.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Humans are our own worst enemies. Whether it's us fucking ourselves, fucking each other, or fucking the planet, it does seem we're all gonna be fucked sooner or later at the going pace of things.. ☹️

[–] NoTagBacks@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

I'm struggling with answering this question. I mean, obviously, I don't know. I could give an opinion on what I think is most likely to happen, but what does it matter? Like, legitimately, what does it matter? And I do mean it earnestly, what would it matter even if I just so happened to be right about my speculation?

We all certainly hope that 2025 will be better. But I think the important thing to remember is that 2025 being better is possible. In fact, I used to be a homophobic ultra-conservative fundamentalist Christian bigot. In my remorse over the person I used to be, I noticed I felt shame rather than self-righteousness over my condemnation of people just being who they are. In my longing to undo the evil I committed in the past, I realized I have the opportunity to fight for good, even if it means fighting what feels like my own reflection. I got better. I still have a ways to go and even more internalized prejudice I need to demolish, but at least I know getting better is possible, because I did it before goddammit. And if a dickhead like me can be better, can't we all?

And even if things just turn to absolute shit, I know I can at least make my tiny corner of the world a little bit brighter if I can make myself better. And you know what? I think it's good enough for me to know that I can start doing something about that right now. Afterall, as Marcus Aurelius would say to himself; It is up to you!

[–] berryjam@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

It will be hotter.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago
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[–] art@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I feel like I'm bracing for impact. I think it's gonna get a lot fucking worse.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Who knows 🤷‍♂️

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