this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2024
1 points (100.0% liked)

TechTakes

1427 readers
106 users here now

Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

This is not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

For actually-good tech, you want our NotAwfulTech community

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 4 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago
[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

MBA idiots and Economists consistently overestimate the abilities (and the underlying nature) of AI, because the output of AI is so much like how they speak: eloquent, confidently wrong, unconcerned with ground truth. They see themselves in AI, and they consistently overestimate themselves and their abilities.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i can't find a hole in this argument

[–] self@awful.systems 1 points 5 months ago

they phrase it so your brain will think otherwise, but I just want to point out the maybe obvious so nobody else has to do a double-take at the quoted paragraphs:

their example of what an ultra-intelligent AGI could do is of a human speedrunner using a glitch to beat Minecraft in 20 seconds. this asshole is taking something humans are excellent at and saying “but what if AI could do this, and also what if Minecraft was real life?” this is literal baby shit. like, even tool-assisted speedruns are the product of a shitload of human research into the problem space, and the tool’s just executing impossibly precise game inputs programmed, again, by a human. this is another space where AI sucks compared with regular human effort.

and speaking of which, does anyone remember the early OpenAI and Google marketing where they had an LLM play pac-man or some shit at supposedly superhuman levels? can anyone dig up an outcome for any of those in the form of a record on any credible speedrunning site or during an event? cause speedrunning has a ton of categories including stuff like dog-assisted runs, where you train your dog to play the game, and it’s all considered valid as different forms of skill applied to the game. the one thing you can’t do is cheat, and they’re very good at verifying runs (ie, you must be provably using the method you claim, and you can’t splice video together or use emulator cheats to achieve a better run). so where’s the verified LLM speedrun records?