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[–] forrcaho@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I can't get inside the head of any of the crazies who go on a rampage and shoot up a school or a house of worship, but it gives me comfort to think that such people now know that if they shoot a CEO instead of a classroom full of children they will be regarded as having made a positive contribution to society. I really hope school shootings will go down after this, and I think they may well.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I know a school shooting up which wouldn't be a huge crime. Back then, that is. Now I can't be certain.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago

"A-are we the baddies?"

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 268 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (34 children)

People are in disbelief that they would be making this kid into a hero,” he told Fortune.

Attending a conference for CEOs in New York this week, just blocks away from the site of the shooting, George found that many were shaken and deeply concerned by the reaction to Thompson’s killing. “They’re having plenty of meetings right now to discuss beefing up security,” he said of the business leaders, even as some question how much security coverage is enough. People are asking themselves, “‘What does that say about our society? Where’s our society going?’” George said.

So they've learned absolutely nothing.

Plenty of meetings to beef up security. How about plenty of meetings to understand how your greed has caused this? They sound one logical leap (that they are unwilling to make) away from understanding exactly what the problem is.

They managed to find one and only one CEO quote that reflected anything resembling self-awareness.

“When I was growing up, CEOs didn’t make millions more than everyone else in the company. I think we have to reflect on why there’s so much anger and do something about it.”

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 167 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

All I can think of is a TED talk I saw where the speaker had given some presentation to a bunch of billionaires and had some q&a, and one of them who had built a bunker for themselves asked him how they could prevent their security team from turning on them in the bunker.

The TED talk guy responded "Be kind to them?"

And the Billionaire said "But where does that end?"

I'll try to find it so I can link it.

EDIT: Found it!

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 200 points 1 week ago (8 children)

This was a random killing by a mentally ill person. Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about.

How fucking tone-deaf is this person? The bigger issues that we care about are things like going bankrupt from getting sick or injured. Those issues are directly caused by their CEOs. This wasn't a random killing, which is why people are so happy about it.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 142 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Here’s an idea, make human life more important than line go up. I’m pretty sure that would get alllllll of your asses off the firing line.

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 121 points 1 week ago (3 children)

“Journalists look for heroes and villains; life is not that simple. Why is the killer getting 10 times as much press as the person who was killed?”

I agree with the last part of this quote, but probably not in the same way they wanted.

Why aren't we hearing more about the policies the CEO supported that caused so much pain and suffering?

Why did I have to learn about them having double the industry-standard claims denial rate through a meme and not through news articles everywhere?

Why am I not seeing more articles about how much money these people made by denying coverage? Why am I not seeing articles about their political contributions to keep healthcare privatized?

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 108 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

Most people don’t hate CEOs.

Uhhh, that actually might not be true.

If you were to do a poll in the US I think you can crack 51%, especially if you phrase it by mentioning that they have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit regardless of morality.

Edit: just had a thought. Given how much more money they make than the average worker, and that the average worker puts their health at risk by sitting at a desk so much, this might actually make sense in terms of risk/reward structure.

If the ultra wealthy make more than 1000 than me, shouldn’t they take 1000 times more risk of dying (I’m not supporting violence).

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 103 points 1 week ago (2 children)

United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was fatally shot on Dec. 4, 2024. The public response was generally not sympathetic.

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[–] noobface@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Our industry is built around devaluing human life for profit. Why aren't these people valuing our lives?"

It's like a sketch comedy show. They can't be this dumb.

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 100 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

— “My challenge is keeping employees engaged. How do you maintain a sense of purpose if you think your customers hate you?”

Your customers DO hate you. It's not just what you think, it's reality.

Maybe rather than trying to maintain a sense of purpose for what you're doing, you should take a step back and question WHAT you're doing, and whether it has any purpose in society at all other than making you money?

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, corporate America is made up of hardworking Americans who do their best to reward the investors, and many times those investors are pension funds

Ah yes, every day I wake up to go to work just to do my best to reward the investors. Not because I need to pay for living expenses, just because I love pleasing the investors.

JFC these people are living in a fantasy world.

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[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Just wanted to comment on these two.

“I have to wonder if the demonization of corporate America and the wealthy over the last four years planted a mind virus in the assassin’s mind.”

Fuck you! You have the mind virus. A virus which leads you to believe that the rest of us should suffer because you’re better. Eat shit anonymous CEO.

“If you walk by the place where it happened, it’s business as usual, which gives me some perspective. This was a random killing by a mentally ill person. Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about.”

Then light some candles and put out some flowers you fucking cowardly parasite. Hold a vigil, gather your CEO buddies and sing Kumbaya. Be sure and post the date online so all of the healthcare CEOs know when to be there.

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