this post was submitted on 06 Dec 2024

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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Discussing jury nullification is against the ToS of lemmy.world and will get you banned, according to worldnews mod (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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As per .world worldnews mod, no discussing naughty stuff like jury nullification.

While this post is blowing up, here's the book referenced by the shooter:

Delay Deny Defend - Why Insurance Companies Don't Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It

Pdf
Epub

By request: Full, uncensored video of the shooting. (Fucking obviously NSFW)

Jury nullification: A practical FAQ

Do I have to answer questions about jury nullification?

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[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

I want to find a new home instance, just randomly picked this one when I signed up moving from reddit.

Anybody got any suggestions or one's to avoid?

[–] Blaze 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

https://lemm.ee is generalist, second biggest instance, cool admins, federated with almost everyone

Lemmy.zip is a bit more techy, but very transparent: https://lemmy.zip/post/27236300 also federated with almost everyone

If you look for instance defederated from hexbear and lemmygrad, there is https://sopuli.xyz/ and https://discuss.online/

https://reddthat.com/ is nice too, but disables downvotes

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

World News is ban-happy, screw em.

John Oliver did an episode about jury nullification, IIRC. And it's funny how when you're on jury duty, they're not allowed to tell you about jury nullification, but they can't stop you from discussing or doing it when you're making your deciding. IMO they should be required to tell you, but as usual, those in power fear anyone outside the system having power of their own.

[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 19 points 2 weeks ago

I caught one of those bans. No explanation, no nothing, and I've said far more inflammatory things than just "Jury Nullification"

[–] kevlar21@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s also important to understand the jury selection process! If you say you believe in jury nullification they’re not going to keep you around.

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[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

Glad I didn't pick that instance. They have no balls.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Really unfortunate this dipshit runs a relatively popular instance.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The root of the issue is that being an admin is hard work, with consistent time commitment, and it falls to whoever has enough spare time and just feels like doing it. So there's no real "standard" like there would be at a job. If you annoy the other admins, you're probably going to be gone, but other than that, they need you to be there, because finding other volunteers to take over for you is going to be difficult.

Here's what I don't understand: The social side of LW administration is clearly off the rails. I'm not even trying to say they're "bad" or power tripping or whatever. They're just amateurs jumping into what is at the best of times a difficult and neverending balancing act of good judgements, and it makes sense that they'd get it wrong sometimes. But how is the back-end admin team killing it to such a degree? I cannot imagine that running a service like lemmy.world is easy. So... how did they manage to attract people who can succeed at the objectively hard challenge of keeping the whole thing humming along, pretty successfully, when the quality of people they can attract to the much less objective-qualification-needing side of leading the mod team and the social side of admin is so haphazard?

I never really thought about it before, but it's an interesting question now that I look at it.

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[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm totally with the post here condemning this but I wish some people in this comment section would act neutrally.

This is not a lemmy.world admin, who would actually speak on behalf of the whole instance (Not that those haven't done questionable shit either, but not to this level). It's a mod on community that happens to be hosted on lemmy.world, and they are citing the lemmy.world ToS in bad faith. Just like a corrupt cop will think of some bullshit law to arrest you if they wanted to abuse their power.

I for one do hope they get removed as a mod from the community by the admins, but strangely I see very little of that being discussed. Instead there's a bunch of prepossessed conclusions made about the users of lemmy.world, which shouldn't be a surprise that the largest instance, isn't a monolith, and people don't join it for political affiliation unlike some instances. The fact the mod is at times not even receiving a single upvote should be clear that everyone is disgusted by this.

Lemmy.world users need to see this thread and this corruption from a mod on our instance, so that we can pressure them into being removed. Since communities are there also for people outside of the instance, this is a net positive for the fediverse itself if they get kicked out.

But this kind of circle jerking over how much you dislike lemmy.world, you're drowing out the actually important information, and if the first thing someone sees when entering this thread is unfounded prejudice against them, they're going to ignore it and think less of you for it in return, creating a more hostile space for everyone that has to share it. I hope everyone here that does this is aware of that self-sabotage.

[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 17 points 2 weeks ago

Welp, this here is one of the problems of having big, general instances. As any group gets too big you get decisions like this being made. Find your ideal neighborhood in the fediverse and don't make another monolith

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