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Microsoft tries to convince Windows 10 users to buy a new PC with full-screen prompts (www.theverge.com)

submitted 14 hours ago by trespasser69@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I hate how microsoft seems to think they own the term PC now and it can mean anything they want. Some of the "Copilot+ PCs" they're advertising on things like this have ARM CPUs which means they aren't PCs. I would even argue that a lot of x86 computers aren't PCs now because they only support UEFI booting so aren't PC compatible. They need to just call them computers or come up with a new term

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

have ARM CPUs which means they aren't PCs

Why on earth would architecture have anything to do with it?

only support UEFI booting so aren't PC compatible.

Oh wow, I don't think anyone using the term "PC" this century was referring to "IBM PC-Compatible" like it's 1981. The only vestages of that is that the term excludes Mac even today.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

They may not have realized it, but until UEFI-only computers started becoming common, people mostly were still effectively drawing the line at IBM compatibility

What's the fundamental difference between an Intel Macbook and my old 2018 Lenovo laptop? Either of them can run modern Windows, Linux, whatever. For most modern uses, they're basically equivalent. The one thing that makes the Lenovo different though is its firmware. The Lenovo has BIOS support and the Mac doesn't.

If you then add my current Framework laptop, which is UEFI-only, to the comparison though, it gets kind of fuzzy. It's clearly not a Mac, but what is there to really define it as a PC? It can't run MacOS, but that doesn't really work to separate it because plenty of PCs can run MacOS. It's not made by Apple, but if that's all it takes then is a Chromebook or one of the Talos POWER workstations a PC too? It's kind of hard to say the Framework is a PC without including so many other things that the term PC kind of loses all meaning.

I think the term PC has just outlived its usefulness and we need to move on to saying more specific things than that to describe computers. In most modern contexts, all that matters is what architecture a computer is and what operating systems will run on it, and PC just isn't really a great term to convey that information anymore.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 8 hours ago

PC = a computer that you use to do computer stuff on. Windows PC, Linux PC, MacBook or a Chromebook, it's all PC.

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[–] ElvenMithril@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago

Microsoft sucks, but surely they have to know that already

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