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The team behind menstrual health and period tracking app Clue has said it will not disclose users' data to American authorities, following Donald Trump's reelection.

The message comes in response to concerns that during Trump's second presidency, abortion bans that followed the overturn of Roe v. Wade in 2022 will worsen and states will attempt to increase menstrual surveillance in order to further restrict access to terminations.

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[–] Grogon@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Good news but kind of bad that they say this publicly.

The pro of showing support for reproductive rights, building trust and protecting user privacy is great for publicity but I am afraid the downsides will eventually lead to legal consquences, making the whole thing seen even more political than it already is and that it might have a huge impact on their business.

The last thing might sound stupid, but it's a business. And if you have crazy woman who will not use this because they support the ban on abortions the sells will go down in for example republican states making the company MORE VULNERABLE to changing how they think about sharing data to authorities or not.

And yes america has woman who totally want the government to be in control of their bodies LOL. And yes america has many people who can't even figure out the name of bordering states. States, not countries. Ask 10 americans and only 5 will know that Canada is directly above (North) of america and Mexico South.

You have Burger King removing the 1/3 pounder Burger because people thought it's less than a 1/4 pounder Burger cause 4 is higher than 3 making Burger King have less sells on the 1/3 Pounder than the 1/4 LOL.

Sometimes not talking about specific topics is "more" than even speaking about it. Just don't share data and say nothing, they won't ask. Most maga's trumpers won't ask if you don't give them a foundation to poop on.

The hilarious thing though is that most abortions are done in California, but only because of abortion tourism (example from Texas). A typicall trumper will now claim this is wrong and say democrats love abortions... This is so sad.

I am neither republican nor democrat, I am german and don't live in that country but we have trumpers too so don't worry and hang in there.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You have Burger King removing the 1/3 pounder Burger because people thought it's less than a 1/4 pounder Burger cause 4 is higher than 3 making Burger King have less sells on the 1/3 Pounder than the 1/4 LOL.

That was A&W.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

BRB, going to sell 1/8 lb burgers to take advantage of dumb Americans

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This isn't a company that has a great track record. They are saying this now when Trump is powerless as a form of advertisement. When up against a legal wall and at risk of losing advertisers or going out of business, they too will cave. In this era you get to say whatever you want right now and you don't even need to apologize when you renig on it tomorrow.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don’t know if they’re already doing this, but they need to find ways to make security so robust that it is architecturally impossible for the business to handover useful data.

And here’s hoping courts continue to allow people to plead the 5th and not fork over passwords. If that protection falls, I don’t know how you’d design a digital workaround that would keep people out of contempt of court charges.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

They could do it by not uploading any of the data, or if they do, uploading it encrypted with the only key being on the user's device or a passcode.

Both are well established ways to secure data, but the company itself would not be able to interact with the data at all past storing it, so any features/revenue there would end.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Not a choice they can make, if they have the data then the government can compel them to turn it over

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't know much about menstrual cycles. Wouldn't it be easier and just as effective to track with pen and paper?

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago

The main service my period tracker provides is a notification telling me "hey, it's PMS time. If you're emo it's ok, it's probably just hormones and not the real end of the world. You're also likely to hyperfixate on something. Pull out your knitting a fixate on that, instead of risking fixating on something someone said off-handedly a decade ago that now makes you cry".

(The message is user-configurable. Mine doesn't say that verbatum, but that's the gist.)

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

nah. Think about how good computers are at pattern recognition and long term storage for analysis. Far superior to a pen and paper

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