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[–] a9249@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

All cars should function like a cockpit- each function has its own independent metal toggle switch that goes 'KAK when switched. I will fight you on this. We need someone to make an interior that does this; sells well, and then the golden age of independent buttons shall return!

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

each function has its own independent metal toggle switch

one steering wheel to steer left, and one to steer to the right

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[–] PrincessLeiasCat@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking YES

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

The answer is tactile buttons with displays behind them. Not sure why nobody is doing this in cars...

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because they are expensive. More importantly, how often does the function of a button is changed? Top right corner button on android is usually a back button (arrow/ x) or a profile icon. How often does a bottom navigation in an app change? Dashboard is an app that rarely changes.

I will do you one better. The screen in the button goes out. If the button changes the display based on the context, what does the button do? Is software responsible to recognize it cannot display an action and do something? What does it do? Should the user be responsible to remember what does the button do based on the context? This article is about return to physical buttons because they are reliable. Do you see any button on your cars dashboard that is unlabeled? Do you remember looking up in a manual what a weirdly iconed button does? On any piece of hardware.

This is from users perspecrtive alone.

Lets do the manufacturer. Imagine that screen buttons have SKUs. Dashboards have SKUs. Screen buttons have versioned drivers. Screen buttons need power delivery. Data lanes on pcbs. And fuck else.

Now imagine that you have a physical button. It costs cents. It closes one lane. Maybe needs power for a led.

Who the fuck wants screen buttons?

Finally. What the fuck multiple screen buttons solve that a single screen that can be any number of any buttons couldnt?

Because sure as fuck they wont solve for context, clarity and reliablity.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

except at rivian. they have stated future models will have an all touchscreen dashboard

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While you're at it bring back the Amber, its such a perfect color for the dash

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

How about just generic opensource communications via Ethernet rj45? Then you just plug in any screen/computer including raspberry pi so you can have whatever system you want.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Won’t someone please think of the shareholders?!!

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Can we return to transparent cases for Consoles and Tech next? I've always thought a touchscreen in cars were pretty scary since you have to take your eyes off the road.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 2 weeks ago
[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

They could go one step further and add braille support directly, it's just nudges. Tactile feeling is the only reason they are back.

Yes, I'm aware there are no blind drivers. The point is not having to look at your controls and doing so with something that already exists.

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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been around just long enough to suspect that this will be part of a cycle going back and forth between tactile controls and touchscreens.

That is, give it a decade and touchscreens will be the in-thing again. And another decade and someone will have the "fantastic new idea" of bringing tactile controls back.

And there'll be a combo breaker of some sort where a new technology comes along (probably no screens, or controls, only voice control) which a small few will absolutely love - due to sunk cost fallacy mostly - and no-one else will buy (compare: 3D TVs), and the cycle will begin again.

Bonus points for: 1) Manufacturers managing to have cycles out of step with others because the market forces aren't quite enough (people not having the money to buy new cars) to bring them all into line. 2) External factors like, say, the world ending, breaking the cycle.

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[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Now if only that were the case for phones. Blackberry keyboards were better than any shitty touch screen.

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd have to disagree on that one

[–] Threeme2189@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Having a choice would be a good start. It's either 'Solid black brick A' or 'Solid black brick B' in the smartphone world.

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[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I just want to say that I think this is the dash from my old car a Toyota Yaris.

I miss you ole' buddy. I'm sorry you got rear ended and totaled. You were a great car.

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[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Drivers will see this and say hell yeah

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

About. Fucking. Time.

[–] Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

Sick so I can just not get a touchscreen car I waited it out

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