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Please, do not use Brave. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
 

I have seen many people in this community either talking about switching to Brave, or people who are actively using Brave. I would like to remind people that Brave browser (and by extension their search engine) is not privacy-centric whatsoever.

Brave was already ousted as spyware in the past and the company has made many decisions that are questionable at best. For example, Brave made a cryptocurrency which they then added to a rewards program that is built into the browser to encourage you to enable ads that are controlled by Brave.

Edit: Please be aware that the spyware article on Brave (and the rest of the browsers on the site) is outdated and may not reflect the browser as it is today.

After creating this cryptocurrency and rewards program, they started inserting affiliate codes into URL's. Prior to this they had faked fundraising for popular social media creators.

Do these decisions seem like ones a company that cares about their users (and by extension their privacy) would make? I'd say the answer is a very clear no.

One last thing, Brave illegally promoted an eToro affiliate program making a fortune from its users who will likely lose their money.

Edit: To the people commenting saying how Brave has a good out-of-the-box experience compared to other browsers, yes, it does. However, this is not a warning for your average person, this is a warning for people who actively care about their privacy and don't mind configuring their browser to maximize said privacy.

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[–] gornius@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Brave behaving like Win XP era browser with gazillion toolbars installed, with a pinch of crypto and crypto promoting ads should be a giant red flag.

FOSS =/= trusted by default. Why are there so many FOSS evangelists, but such a damn tiny part of them are programmers, let alone programmers able to examine a source code behind such a giant codebase as web browser?

I use Vivaldi, at least their business model is clear, and developer is kind of trusted, and not crypto scammer and homophobe.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are there daily posts against Brave but not against other browsers? Is Google more trustworthy than Brave?

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[–] NabeGewell@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Lol isn't eTrash considered a scam anyways? They are the reason i got ad blocker - dumbest ads on youtube 24/7.

Anyways sounds like you gotta be quite brave to use Brave lol

[–] droidpenguin@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I used to use Brave, then used Bromite but that got abandoned. I think there's another fork of it, but ultimately I just use Firefox which has worked better for me overall.

Browsers are a big attack vector for exploits and security is very important. Firefox releases patches regularly and I don't have to worry about it being abandoned like some others. I disabled whatever telemetry / sponsored stuff they have enabled by default and feel it's a good balance of security & privacy + doesn't have the DRM crap chromium is trying to add.

Their extension support is nice too.

[–] gasull@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

If you need a Chromium derivative, then Brave is probably the best choice. It's open-source, and includes ad blocking. Just don't use its crypto token.

I prefer Firefox over Brave, but sometimes I might need a Chromium derivative for a particular site.

[–] kworpy@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please just stop flooding this community with Brave-related shit. We already know what a shitty browser it is, we aren't living under the rocks you think we are.

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[–] LWJanniesRCucks@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Not reading all that, still sticking to based Brave 😎

[–] Designate6361@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Or just use Edge cause Microsoft is already syphoning your data so you might as well go the whole hog and use Edge

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

All you need to know is the Brave guy is a pedophile who is 100% using your ad revenue to buy csam.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Newsflash: everything that isn't free and entirely open source is generally spyware these days.

It's amazing how we pilloried RealPlayer and burned its parent company to the fucking ground over two decades ago for far less egregious transgressions than what we now let Meta, Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc get away with.

[–] RandyButternubs@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 year ago

its open source tho, show me the spyware and i will belive you

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Just disable the ads, crypto and telemetry and suddenly none of those things are a problem anymore, just like Firefox.

[–] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why should I trust Mozilla over Brave? Just because Mozilla is a nonprofit subsidiary doesn't mean that they don't have an incentive to make money for their profit handling corporate division, the Mozilla Corporation. I tried playing around with Firefox and not having the option to directly add a less-used search engine than the ones given without extensions was pretty sketchy to me. All of the complaints people have about Brave like ads and the weird crypto thing are very configurable in the settings, and I have a lot less compatibility issues compared to Firefox. Also, the source linked claiming all of this is a sketchy Neocities site that anyone could have made that doesn't even prove why Brave isn't private. I get that people are loyal to their favorite browsers but this is silly. If you really want to be private, use the Tor network, but all browsers and extensions need to track you in some degree to function.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I used to use Firefox but have been using Brave cause I was getting tired of having to open Edge every time there would be an addon or tool that was Chrome exclusive. So unless there's other options for privacy focused chromium browsers I'm just gonna stick with brave.

[–] Venomnik0@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

I see this exact thread every week now and it's between the same people:

"Oh ok i stopped using it" to "Naw i'll keep using brave"

At this point can we stop this? Brave is trash but people are either too stubborn or just don't care anymore (which is ironic). Either mods just pin this thread and treat this as a "brave is trash" megathread or I don't know.

[–] Daydream8714@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago

I would be very curious what other browsers people recommend. I use Brave solely because of the profile feature it offers, which for my use case is an order of magnitude better than Firefox’s containers. Is there something more private/better than Brave that still has profiles?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dont use Brave and will never use it. But this sounds not logical.

Their ad system and affiliate URLs are not anti-privacy per-se. Its not as easy.

I will not use it as its

  • 99% controlled by Google
  • dependend on Google Addon store
  • bad UI
  • bad OS integration
  • not Arkenfox
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[–] moitoi@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

The issue is wider than Brave. Nowadays, companies build uncritical communities around their products.

If you try to be critical, you loose the community in which you're involved on one side. And, if you are critical from the outside, "you don't understand" like in the "you're not the choose one".

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

If people want to use Brave, or Windows, or install screen doors on their submarines who am I to complain?

The fact is for a lot of people, Brave offers a superior out of box experience compared to firefox or almost any other browser. In terms of ad blocking, speed and ease of use, it's pretty much second to none. The fact that you install it and go is really appealing and how easy they make the slider to adjust the aggressiveness of the script blocking is great ui that my dad mother could use.

Yes, the company isn't very good, it's headed by a guy with a questionable history and has a poor track record when it comes to monetization strategy. I stopped using Brave this year, but for ages it was my goto because I could just install it and have an improved web experience.

[–] HKayn@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

How about we just let users use what they want? I don't use Brave, but it has some legitimate anti-fingerprinting tech.

[–] nothingness@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago
  1. I use brave on android, because there's not much choice. I really-really-really loved bromite, but noupdatess for like a year Recently I found out there's cromite so I think i will check that one out
  2. On desktop I use librewolf, only
  3. For any people using google chrome/yandex/edge/opera I install brave and disable all the crypto/advertising/crap. It would be nice to have a script that does it automatically. Or another browser that just doesn't have that
[–] DigitalJacobin@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

There are many, many good reasons to not use Brave. Being spyware is not one of those.

Boycott Brave for real reasons like their CEO and owner being a raging anti-gay reactionary or because of their cryptocurrency bs.

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