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Good job Dems, This will definitely help you get votes. (lemmy.world)

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[+] echo@lemmings.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (35 children)

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[–] echo@lemmings.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What kind of fucking moron tells themselves they're going to vote for Trump because Harris might continue to support Israel? Trump would be far, far worse for Gaza.

Hey mod(s) - why remove my comment?

[+] Ephoron@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree but reality is voting third party is never going to teach DNC anything right now. So long as the GOP exists they will do something dumb again in 4 years. Both major parties are going to support Isreal in some way. Vote the gop out to the void and turn on the DNC next. This way at least maybe women in US won't risk dying or jail time.

[–] Ephoron@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Vote the gop out to the void and turn on the DNC next.

The question I keep asking and get no reply to is, how?

How do we "turn on the DNC next". In your scenario, we've just given them the unequivocal message that they can be assured of our votes no matter what their policies are, even supporting genocide doesn't loose them votes, so long as the Republicans are worse.

So, by what mechanism do we "turn on the DNC"?

Why would they listen to a single protest, campaign, or speech knowing that their votes are secure no matter what?

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

DNC already know people only vote for them no matter what because the GOP is the big baddy and not even hiding it. DNC behavior over the years taught me that. Literally nothing the public will do will change their minds. They'll pop champagne like those wall streeters.

Yeah that's the kicker. I know this is 100% hopful but in a ideal world GOP eats itself when Trump loses again and the DNC is now effectively replacing the GOP as the conservative party. I will 100% be telling people to vote third party to break the DNC. Of course I thought this would happen in 2020 but Trump rallied the GOP. DNC need to get what they deserve but I can't risk my sisters safety over my wants to punish them. It's like the anachrist communist meme. Truce until the revolution.

[–] Ephoron@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 1 month ago

a ideal world GOP eats itself when Trump loses again and the DNC is now effectively replacing the GOP as the conservative party.

Best answer I've had yet. I'm not convinced, but at least it's a plan with an actual mechanism that isn't contrary to reality.

The reason I'm not convinced is that it would require politics to be far less Machiavellian than it is. All the while it's in their best interests to have Trump-the-devil as their opponent, they'll push that narrative, true or not. I think the Democrats will be too scared to push too far to the centre for the very reasons you've given, they might loose support to an actual left-wing and their donors simply won't risk that. The Democrat's job is to suck energy from actual left-wing campaigns. To do they they need to stay left, but not too left.

And, of course, they need to convince millions of people more progressive than they are, to vote for them regardless because "the other guy...".

But still, I respect your plan. Hope I'm wrong, and it works.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

Every US President gets to try to start one war in the Middle East. Biden was planning on saving it for his second term, but, you know.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really don't think Israel is going to be a deciding factor in this election. Both parties support Israel (so it's not a point of differentiation between the two parties/candidates) and most Americans don't know or care about what's going in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, etc.

[–] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

If one delirious shitty britches party says "they are against this thing" the shitty britches sniffers will surely be all for the shitted britches position