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Need at least the camera, if not that plus a microphone and speakers, not the lock or bell.

Libre Software (Obviously) + End-to-End Encryption

Small and easy to hide, so the camera isn't stolen, attacked or bypassed.

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Unpopular opinion: an actual doorbell.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

That won't record attackers.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Add (offline, regular) camera.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

add a vandal proof camera on top

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ops. Missed the actual details. Sorry. How small you want it to be? Any dimentions?

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No specific measurements.

https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-cam-pan

Something like this which has a privacy mode where it rotates and hides could be good.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Vandal proof camera is easy to find, but with privacy mode? I don't think such product exist yet.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I literally just linked an example.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's not vandal proof. What I mean by vandal proof is IK rated, like IK10.

Best I can find is https://www.hikvision.com/en/products/IP-Products/PTZ-Cameras/Value-Series/ds-2de2a404iw-de3-w-s6-/

You will have to set the camera pointing default to a non sensitive area, likely ground if you mount it directly above your doorbell, and only tilt up when it get some event triggers like motion (feet), audio (it does have a mic), doorbell (via home assistant), other cameras (mition alerts), or something else.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I see, thank you!

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I can't remotely see if an important package was delivered with a regular doorbell.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If that is a big problem, one alternative is to get a post office box.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

That's seems like a good idea, considering the plethora of videos online of packages being stolen with an obvious camera watching the thieves.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I also can't see who took my package with a regular doorbell. But apparently having security cameras on your property is dystopian surveillance.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Having security cameras that malicious businesses sell so they can scrape your data and share video with the police without your informed consent is a dystopian nightmare.

Having your own security system that is only accessed by you and those you intentionally share it with is not.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

I think that is the normal choice

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You want Reolink + Frigate

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

Yes, I have this too. Works fine.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Cameras seem too big and obvious, easy to attack.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They have a doorbell: https://reolink.com/__/product/reolink-video-doorbell/

It doesn't really get smaller than that.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Oh, I see, thank you!

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can use a Wyze Video Doorbell 1 and flash it with thingino firmware. Then hook it up to a Frigate home surveillance server.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, looks good, thank you!

Will that run on a Pi? Can it shut off when I'm at home?

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Frigate can definitely run on a Pi. It can also integrate with Home Assistant which can run on a Pi. As for turning itself off when you're home, I don't know.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Best answer, thanks again!

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

You're welcome. I'm glad I could help out

[–] SecurityPro@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I use Eufy doorbells, locks, and cameras. I realize they are a Chinese company, but that is almost unavoidable until the US gets back to actually manufacturing tech.

The reason I like Eufy is the local storage and no required subscription fees.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago

Isn't this the company that not only got busted for uploading continuous footage but got caught publicly exposing that footage to anyone with VLC?

I if I am remembering correctly you should throw away the device immediately

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I use eufy as well. The only issue they recently had was that thumbnails were stored in their cloud if you chose to enable them on notifications. If you just select the text option, none of the footage is stored online and everything is local.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Harder for China than the US to attack in the US.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Reolink has a local encrypted video doorbell.

[–] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Here's a very similar question I asked here a few months ago: "Privacy respecting ring doorbell" https://lemm.ee/post/8165932

[–] DARbarian@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

Been hunting for the same thing for years

[–] kbal@fedia.io 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

That won't record attackers.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

It might contribute in some small aesthetic way to deterring them, which seems a much better ambition.

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