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[–] tal@lemmy.today 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamsite

Adamsite or DM is an organic compound; technically, an arsenical diphenylaminechlorarsine, that can be used as a riot control agent. DM belongs to the group of chemical warfare agents known as vomiting agents or sneeze gases.

I think that we can probably consider this a vomiting agent, same sort of idea.

https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents/CSP/C-14/open-forum/Dangerous-Ambiguities-Regulation-of-Riot-Control-Agents-and-Incapacitants-under-the-Chemical-Weapons-Convention_Rev.1.pdf

The CWC is comprehensive in the toxic chemicals it regulates.

  • The definition of “toxic chemicals” under Article 2.2 includes chemicals that cause “temporary incapacitation”.
  • Under the Convention, the use of such “toxic chemicals” would be forbidden unless employed for “purposes not prohibited” and as long as the “types and quantities” are consistent with such purposes.
  • Among the “purposes not prohibited” is: “law enforcement including domestic riot control”.

I don't think that use of a tripwire trap could reasonably be domestic riot control, so that's probably in violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention.

Now, that's just a treaty, not customary international law, so it doesn't bind states not party to the treaty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention

There are 193 states party to the treaty, but "Four UN states are not party: Egypt, Israel, North Korea and South Sudan." For them, use would be acceptable.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

There are 193 states party to the treaty, but “Four UN states are not party: Egypt, Israel, North Korea and South Sudan.” For them, use would be acceptable.

Anyone want to take odds on whether Egypt won't sign just because Israel won't sign? They're not exactly a frequent flier on lists of nations who don't support international law.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Well it's not not a war crime.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Technically, it's a lifetime supply of fish.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

For a second I thought someone weaponized a garbage disposal...

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

You're not wrong.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Can't find a gif of it, but wasn't that the gag in Big Trouble?

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's definitely a biological weapon.

[–] Successful_Try543 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Although it's from biological origin, one won't infect with surströmming when exposed to its aerosols, but one would suffer from the smell, thus it's a chemical weapon.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Yes, you are absolutely right. My mistake.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago

The font? Yes.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

If it isn't it damn well should be

[–] Grimmnir@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

Weaponized as such, close enough.

Sealed tins with labels removed left in cupboards or on store shelves in areas Russian troops are moving in to and likely to raid or set up barracks or HQs, however?