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[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I like nano tho it has some strange shortcuts

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

micro has some improvements and default shortcuts that are much closer to common GUI text editors

https://micro-editor.github.io/

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There's always ed for masochists.

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[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Nano isn't even that simple. Ctrl+X to quit? I guess if you use phonetic sounds to figure out how to exit a program. At least Vim uses the idea of "use what the words start with."

I personally use micro in the terminal, and Kate if I want a GUI to write. Vim and Emacs are fine for those who want it, I have no stakes in the editor wars beyond "I just want my program to do what I want, and I want it to be simple to learn."

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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Isn't this supposed to be VIM vs Emac? What's is there point to be programming in the terminal anyway? Nano is good to fix some config files while your are in there, but if I needed to do real programming I'll be finding something that works in the GUI.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Easy is relative. What are you trying to do? Replace a value in an yaml file? Then nano is easier. Trying to refactor a business critical perl/brainfuck polyglot script in production? Then you probably want to use vim (or emacs if you are one of those people)

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

idk man, vims pretty chill, it even has a tutor in it already, what more could you want?

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

A text editor that doesn’t assume that the keys on my keyboard are in the same order as yours.

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[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The Holy Trinity: VIM, Arch, and Rust

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[–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (8 children)

The problem I had with nano is that, for the time being, it was supposed to be easy to use. With that in account I always get lost when saving a file and closing the thing because one's used to doing something else with Ctrl+O and Ctrl+X.

Whereas with Vim (and Neovim for a little while, and now with Vis) I knew it had a steep learning curve from the start so I always had it in mind. And all the funny stories about quitting vim.

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[–] Gacrux@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (10 children)

is there not a single other person who uses helix?

[–] lenuup@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Emacs users laughing at VIM users.

Emacs - A pretty good OS you can use as a text editor.

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[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

For vim I had to config or install something just to be able to COPY something to use outside vim, how backwards is that? Isn't this the most standard feature one can expect to work as default?

[–] flying_gel@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You mean you couldn't copy some text from vim and paste it into another application? if yes, what did you have to install/configure for that? I've never had any issues copy paste from/to vim, console/GUI windows/Unix.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I just use this:

#!/bin/bash

keep_generating=1
while [[ $keep_generating == 1 ]]; do
    dd if=/dev/random of=$1 bs=1 count=$2 status=none
    echo Contents of $1 are:
    cat $1
    echo
    read -p "Try generating again? " -s -n1 answer
    while true; do
        case $answer in
            [Yy] )
                echo
                break
                ;;
            [Nn] )
                keep_generating=0
                break
                ;;
            *)
        esac
        read -s -n1 answer
    done
done
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