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Hey Privacy people,

I am looking for a OneNote alternative for all my campaign notes for my tabletop RPGs. I was looking at Obsidian.md as an option and wondering what their data collection is like?

Fot all my personal and private notes I use standard notes but the free version is not quite roboist enougj. I can't afford to pay premium any time soon I need a free option I can use.

Any suggestions ?

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[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I use Obsidian, which is quite powerful with their vast plugin library. You can do a lot of automation, and you can check out some of Nicole van der Hoeven's videos, who among other things use it to keep track of TTRPG campaigns, both as a player and as a game master. For example this one.

I don't use their sync service, but have all files locally on my Nextcloud server. I sync them to my phone with Syncthing, which unfortunately means I cannot encrypt them with Cryptomator like I planned, but if you only use it on your computer, that is also something you could do. If you are paranoid about them still phoning home with your data, then you can block its network access with a firewall. I think you can install plugins manually.

I would have preferred it if it was FOSS. I have considered checking out Logseq as an alternative. But the bullet-based workflow doesn't appeal to me, so I haven't tried yet. I switched over from Standard Notes, and honestly it was pain to transfer because the text export from Standard Notes was all over the place, as I had used a lot of different note types. I tried to parse some of these smart notes they have, but I couldn't quickly figure out how they were structured to automate it, so I ended up manually going through and copying over what I wanted to keep. I like the approach of keeping plain text markdown files. It is easier to export to another application in the future, although some of the content will be useless as it is explicitly written for the plugins (e.g. Dataview).

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Joplin is pretty good for organizing notes.

[–] mr_satan@monyet.cc 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I use logseq for work notes and Obsidian for personal. Obsidian is more markdown which I like for my loose notes. logseq, on the other hand, is more focused on productivity and it's fully opensource. Obsidian is only free for personal use, however their notes being closer to standart markdown means that they could be openned with any text editor and be just as functional.

Syncing between computers is easy – it's just a git repo. Dealing with mobile is tricier but I never needed it so can't comment much.

[–] geoma@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How do you sync logseq with git repo?

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I assume they just initialised their graph folder as a git repo and just commit each time they're done working.

[–] markkdark@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Try to syncing via Next Cloud. I'm sync from Linux desktop and Android (Grapheneos).

[–] geoma@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I used to use nextcloud but it won't work uploading fron android... Sync both ways fron desktop but only download from android. Now I am using syncthing and seems to work ok.

[–] fireshell@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

[–] Harvest5634@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Obsidian and logseq

[–] Vertelleus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago
[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] constantokra@lemmy.one -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unless you need specific functionality that silver bullet doesn't provide, i'd start there. It's very similar to logseq, but doesn't have a bunch of questionable design choices based around a paid sync monetization scheme. Silverbullet is self hosted and has a web app. Logseq is a webapp, packaged for Android and desktop, but only allowed file access for your data so you can't self host sync... Because they charge for that. It's a mess.

[–] TheSun@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just use syncthing with logseq and it works fine...

[–] constantokra@lemmy.one -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I do too. My point is there's already a web app you can self host, but you can't store your data on your server. The web app uses the local file access framework, which is just dumb. There's no reason for this except to be able to monetize sync, and that's also dumb because as you said, sync thing works fine. But they're making a bad choice to explicitly remove functionality, and that doesn't make me feel confident about the future of the project.

[–] TheSun@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, they have to monetise somehow. Paying for the convenience of sync seems like a valid path especially given there's fully functional alternative syncs available for free.

[–] constantokra@lemmy.one -1 points 5 months ago

I don't disagree. My problem is not with their choice of monetizing sync. My problem is with their choice to package a web app for Android and desktop, provide that same web app for self hosting, but not allow you to store the data in the web app. In the discussions on GitHub they claim it's just something they can't tackle right now, or whatever. No. It's functionality that was specifically stripped because that's how every other self hosted web app works and the local storage framework they use is obviously bolted on and not well supported by browsers. In other words, they're manufacturing problems to sell you a solution. And again, that's their decision to make. It just doesn't seem like they make good decisions, and we're talking about an app you put a lot of work and data into.

[–] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 5 months ago

Plain text files.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg -1 points 5 months ago

Don't count standard notes out just yet!

They offer discounted plans upon request!

https://standardnotes.com/help/56/what-if-i-can-t-afford-the-price-of-extended