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I know MediaBiasFactCheck is not a be-all-end-all to truth/bias in media, but I find it to be a useful resource.

It makes sense to downvote it in posts that have great discussion -- let the content rise up so people can have discussions with humans, sure.

But sometimes I see it getting downvoted when it's the only comment there. Which does nothing, unless a reader has rules that automatically hide downvoted comments (but a reader would be able to expand the comment anyways...so really no difference).

What's the point of downvoting? My only guess is that there's people who are salty about something it said about some source they like. Yet I don't see anyone providing an alternative to MediaBiasFactCheck...

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone down voting should read this: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/methodology/ (the entire scoring methodology is transparent)

And then laugh at this.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

I don't care if it's transparent. You can be transparently biased.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (8 children)

In America "Left / Left leaning" is to the right of "Democratic Socialists/ Social democrats" which is to the right of "Socialists/Communists". In countries where those are options, it can be confusing calling something that is on the right side of the above spectrum "left". The bot should have either a numerical score (Nazi =1, Right = 3, Left = 5, Dem Socialist = 7, Communist = 9) or it should have a "Socialist leaning" category so that people get that they aren't saying Al Jazzera is supportive of Marx

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[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's really annoying and I don't trust it

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

MBFC is ran by a Zionist and rates obvious israeli lobbies such as the ADL as highly credible. Even when MBFC admits they are israeli lobby groups in their description.

MBFC serves no other purpose than to push liberal Zionist narratives which coincidentally happens to be exactly the positions of the Democrats

For more info see https://lemmy.world/post/18245990

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago (8 children)

exactly the positions of the Democrats

Kinda weird that you're referring to democrats as a whole as Zionists when there are literally pro-Palestinian democrats in congress, never mind regular people who vote democrat. Their party as a whole isn't unified on the matter but to equate democrats with zionism isn't exactly accurate either.

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

It’s really fucking annoying. I blocked it so I don’t have to see it anymore.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Actually, downvotig it has interesting benefits. If I want to know the bots' evaluation, I can scroll to the end to find it.

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[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago

I blocked that annoying piece of shit. It added nothing to discussion.

[–] TalesOfTrees@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hate it because I also hate pretty much all the bots. Automatic postings, pedantic auto-correction bots... all of them absolutely fucking suck and have contributed directly to how shitty the internet has become.

So fuck bots, and double fuck bot creators.

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[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I like that they get downvoted because it puts the comment at the bottom. Knowing it's there, I can scroll down to check it if I want to see what it says. It' snot like downvoting it hides it or affects some long-standing karma number.

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[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How about we just ban bots that don't say they're bots and call it a day?

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago

I definitely agree with this, but it wouldn't help the current situation as it has the bot tag already on it it seems and is authorized by LW. That being said I don't understand the complaints either, just block it and move on or turn off the bot setting in the user profiles

[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The text needs to be better formatted . I skipped by it a lot at first because it looks like spam.

Make a cleaner way to display the info

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[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (28 children)

The alternative is to use your own brain.

The fact that people are so often so ignorant and/or ideologically blinkered that they can't see plain bias when it's staring them in the face is the problem, and relying on a bot to tell you what to believe does not in any way, shape or form help to solve that problem. If anything, it makes it even worse.

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