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[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

Article does nothing but advertise a.book, no answers are suggested - just a lot of repeated words to meet the count.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 13 points 3 months ago

For urban areas where it could potentially work, corruption; classism; NIMBY; poor education about taxes, their uses, and their benefits; and selfishness.

For inter-city, some of the above but also getting the property on which to do it seems to be a huge pain in the ass when looking at projects in Cali or proposals for others such as Texas.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bye@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Other countries have capitalism and they have transit.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

In most of the capitalist world, transit is getting increasingly defunded and low quality, except high speed rail in some countries (which idk if counts as transit)

[–] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Really is a negative feedback loop... Quality(/availability) is shit so less people use public transport - so they either make tickets more expensive or reduce availability - which in turn reduces the amount of people using it - etc

Even taking into account a little traffic I'd still spend 2x times the amount of time going to work compared to going by car. Not to mention it'd cost about 20-30% of my net wage to do so daily.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not how it works. Public transport isn't dying due to lack of demand, it's dying because of neoliberal policy and budget cuts in government spending are the norm for the past 30 years. As an example, in Tallinn public transport is free to use for all residents. 90% of residents agree that this is a good thing. Their government is going to drop it anyway.

Even taking into account a little traffic I'd still spend 2x times the amount of time going to work compared to going by car. Not to mention it'd cost about 20-30% of my net wage to do so daily.

So you agree that public transit is underfunded and shitty? That was exactly my point.

[–] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

Less than we used to and in most places not working that well. Denmark cancelled nearly all train projects when the new government took power and greenlit a bunch of highway lane expansions instead, which are far more expensive.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 months ago

One thing not said is that you don't really have a politician who gets fired directly for bad mass transit. Most mass transit has to function outside of the main urban city and commonly has to go beyond other counties. So you either get a multi county organization that isn't directly accountable to the public or the state that creates interference from rural voters who don't care.

[–] EherNicht 2 points 3 months ago
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

We don't have people who can design high power inverters and controllers, motors and other such power handling devices required to build the propulsion systems.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

One problem, at least in my area, is that to do anything but use busses requires coordination between multiple local governments and often county governments. Aside from the eminent domain, just planning between these groups is cost prohibitive.

There's been a few light rail projects that would work well on paper and really ease congestion, but because there are so many little fiefdoms they've never gotten off the ground.