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We talked stuff that works you up, how about things that you do to calm down? What techniques, activities, mantras, stims, etc. do you do to keep yourself comfortable and safe? Feel free to share what you'd like - and something kinda cool is that you might end up helping someone else down the line.

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[–] djidane535@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Listen to music when shopping or at work (especially if I am surrounded by noisy coworkers), speak out loud to myself when I am alone (I also do it to just think about anything, it’s much easier for me to sort my ideas and take decisions). Another thing I do when I feel sad is playing rhythm games, because it forces me to focus about what I am doing while listening to musics I enjoy (but I do not do it a lot now that I have a dog, I feel much better thanks to her <3).

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People who love animals get the healing power of them. They just lift you up with their sweetness. I used to listen to music, but I stopped at some point. I'd get an earworm and keep that sucker playing on repeat and zen out and BLAM! Chill. (Blam maybe wasn't the right word but I mean all of a sudden I'd realized how chilled out I was)

What ryhthm games? I can't play them, but my sibby plays Konami stuff. My fav is pop'n music.

[–] djidane535@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mainly played Project Diva for 10+ years, but now I also play Theatrythm FF. I think I would love Pop n music but never have it a try (the special controller looks so good :) )

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ooooo, those are the guitaroo man kinda ones with like - lines and timing right? How any of you play these is outta my head. I can sing, and I understand rhythm but translating that to this kinda stuff is just *wuh!?*

It's got a crazy variety of songs if you ever want to check it out here's a playlist of all of them apparently. I hope you get to try it someday =)!

[–] djidane535@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it takes time to get used to it, but it’s almost automatic at some point :).Thanks for the playlist, I will have a look at it ;).

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

No worries, if you wanna send a cool jam (or jams) from either game feel free to toss it here. I love fun music =)

[–] ladytaters@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Crypt of the Necrodancer on steam is a fantastic rhythm game, and you can use your own music on it. The switch version is portable, which is a plus, but there's no ability to swap your music in.

I also second Theatrhythm! Final Fantasy music is almost universally gorgeous.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

Oooo yeah, people love this game. I yet again can sing my buns off and do have rhythm but bringing it to a game is something else. But there are actually a handful of music games on the pc but I don't know too much about them as a whole.

[–] PindoLek24@szmer.info 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Walk to the nature, masturbation, sex, meditation and a medication.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

ill skip the last but otherwise alright.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

I think medication helps in some very real ways. But of course, there are always side-effects and you have to approach it with an openness that both parties are coming in pretty blindly and you've both got a common goal to get you to where you want to go. So it's a lot of trial and error, but when you find things that work for you it just kinda - *clicks* and you don't feel different than who you are but almost kinda...better? That sounds absolutely awful, but by that I mean the things that stood in your way that made it hard for you to do whatever you want to do day to day become a lot easier to achieve without being detrimental in other areas of your life.

And I was anti-medication for about 650 years. But it's helped me, quite a bit =)

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[–] PindoLek24@szmer.info 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you developed the noble eightfold path, a meditation could be better than sex, but it cost a lot of time. For Autistic it can be more difficult. From another side part of people may have a talent for meditation.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

is meditation the main method of cultivating the various right ways. Feels like house before the cart to get to it to improve meditation rather than improve meditation to get to that.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to think we might all have certain pieces of the puzzle but we might not have the big picture view. Likewise I think it's incredibly healthy to accept things as what they are, but to be honest (and this is a hot take here) I think a lot of westerners overly-idealize Buddhist philosophy. But as a mixed kid, eh! I like it, but I don't sit in any one camp. People talk about how humble monks are only eating what they are offered. But honestly, it's a social expectation. In a different space, monks would not thrive because it might not be something so readily being offered and in turn they would experience a level of stressors that push their very beliefs to their core. That's why there's a lot of jokes about things like meditating in isolation on anger only to be annoyed when those practices actually get pushed. In theory all individuals regardless of background, personality, stressors - etc should be able to reach enlightenment. But I think in actuality, it takes a certain alignment of the stars and it's fool-hearty to think otherwise. But that's just me, and what do I know? I'm a messy human. (I always anecdotally remember that one of the most materialistic people I've met in my life was a former Buddhist monk =P!)

I will say though, that in my travels the happiest people I've ever met in my life were a SE Asian Islamic/Buddhist combo. They didn't have much, but they had each other. And to be honest, it really taught me how to mind my ps & qs when it comes to want vs need and what one truly needs to be happy.

But at the end of the day, it's shown over and over again that meditation in some form helps people much like exercise and doing it in any capacity is worthwhile =)!

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah im not much for it as a religion but since I was young I have been obsessed with philosophy including in religion and truth. Currently the four noble truths are about the closest I have come. Take out the rebirth thing but otherwise seems like it. My cuirrent form looks at accpetance a lot which you had right in your second sentence. All the same one of the big acceptances for me is I will likely finish up my time without understanding truth in the purest sense.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I totally feel this. See, I don't think any one religion has the beginning, the middle, and the end. Which you could say about anyone, because how the hell is anyone right about everything 100% of the time. Or have 100% of the coverage of consensus. We try to mimick this with observation and study (basically learning), but we don't have all the answers. I think for sure right now we're all in this giant space of walking the unknown. And if we don't let stuff like this go from time to time it'll drown our minds.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

im moved from any religion not having 100% to pretty much all of them having close enough to 0% to be 0%. The Qanon thing made me reasses how groupthink works.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get so worried when I think about what isolation, silent suffering, and groupthink does to people. It fucks me up, because I didn't entirely understand it until I did. Then I realized how vulnerable we all are, and how many sharks are out there looking to get a power-trip at minimum adding a little chaos into the world and trampling on people's hearts. If addiction is a social disease, I think in the future they'll have some kinda diagnosis for people suffering from what they do to people like incels. But we're not making it any better in this world acting like we've got the answers - the other side doesn't and all the people listening to them are fuck-nuts. I think about the guy who killed his mixed kids. It was super sick how he did it, but he was also terribly unwell. And what got him to that point? I wish we created a society built on understanding, instead of ridicule. And I often wonder is it just a part of us? An intrinsic part of us? Cause a hundred years back I was listening to NPR and I remember the guy talking about how he wanted to find more commonality between all people yet he was profoundly affected in realizing that even he himself had this elitist edge of feeling better than others due to his educational standing. It made him question if it was something built in, if people need to feel superior to another group of individuals that they see below them in order to thrive. And it kinda gave me the thought to. I mean I'll be the first to say "Hey, at least you're not that asshole!" and point at Trump. And I think you know, feeling sorry for the global elite as a whole is kind of a pointless affair (as in celebrity worship on the whole) but I will say this...

I do feel sorry for Trump in some sense. He seems to be stuck in some kinda doddering space that is clearly exacerbated by the circuit he's being run through in order to pretty much guarantee his failure pending that AMERICANS VOTE (!!!!). People are pointing and laughing and saying look at him, he's fucking up all over the place. What a fuck! But I don't really think it's fair to tax a human on that level and then pretend like the playing field is level. But also he's a fuck, so ultimately - eh. But I am not going to celebrate cutting someone off at the knee and then laughing at their inability to stand.

Mind you, I am for sure not pro-Trump in any universe. I am just a humanist, and I think there's something really twisted about stuff like that as a whole. Like, when people want power only to subjugate their oppressors. Or like - how a ton of portrayals of white guys in the media started to look like absolutely idiots or be fetishized or harassable. Cause fuck off with all harassment, but for sure you can't put the shoe on the other foot and then start doing the same FUCKING thing that you hated previously. That's just dumb.

But eh, here's a super rant. Either way it sounds like you've got a solid and level head on your shoulders and I think that will take you further. At least emotionally, in this world. Idk about anything else. So kudos =)~

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I sorta get you on the feeling sorry for him. I have that with a lot of folks but that level playing field is in his favor so I might feel a bit sorry for him and musk. stuck in the same system that they desperately want to shore up because they are on top yet missing out on what humanity has to offer because they can't get passed having the most money points. all the same I feel way more sorry for someone just trying to be a good world citizen and contribute to the extent they can but want a bit of fun and niceness for themselves to.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like I know Musk, because I was friends with him. As in, someone who was like him. And I know that sounds weird, but he seems just like your standard autistic anime nerd. I mean of course there's layers, because he's freakin' rich and he's for sure doing the world dirty right now. But I think ultimately he's in the soup too. He seems to be keeping poor-bedfellows and it's really pushed his brains past the limits. But further more he suffers from what my former friend suffers from - which I saw on here Mr. Beast suffering from too. He can't seem to take criticism. And I don't think it's because he was around a bunch of yes men. And my sibby has this too. Criticism sends the two I know into INSTANT critical meltdown. Where they just break as a whole, and start throwing shit and their eyes get crazy and they just...idk. I can't describe it any other way than - if you've been around it you know. Stuff gets broken, they're decent folks but their brains just can't handle that kinda talk. It's like it causes the most painful cognitive dissonance they can experience.

I don't think there's any free land left on this Earth, but I always heard if you find yourself a patch - you shut the hell up about it and keep your head low. I think about this a lot when I think about the politics of the West. Because I think people in the west are hyper-liberal and their views are wonderful at face value (cause fuck all the isms) but are unrealistic in application. I always thought I was liberal, but coming out here I can see I am not a) the "right" kind of liberal and b) not this kind of liberal (which leads back to a). I am not conservative by any means, I would say my political ties might even lean towards socialism. I just don't understand how a majority of these well-wished systems are supposed to functionally be implemented. Let alone with what money?

And I've likewise heard you tax the rich, they leave the country - the entire country loses power as a whole. Which I think is why you're seeing so few countries implementing said systems. But eh, I mean I am not saying that shit's not messed up as a whole. I guess more so I am just saying that (in Trump's instance) anyone put under the extreme stressors he's been being put under this past year would show signs of it. Also in Musk's case, his dumb ass just needs to stop being on blast - take a seat and stop trying to look cool. Especially to men who have the mindset of teenage boys. He'd do well going on a meditation retreat or three. He just needs some grounding.

Also all celebrity worship needs to stop. In The Simpsons they've got a Tree House of Horror where all the town's mascots come to life and start wrecking havoc. What kills them is people stop paying attention to them. And it's actually why I created a PieFed account in the first place (and got off of Reddit as a whole). Because I don't give a fuck about Trump, Taylor Swift, and Elon Musk and for some reason scores of news were just surrounding those three with fifty people saying the same thing and grinding on each other for all being so "righteous." Just bums me out.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a link to it but there is a video about how rich people get caught up not just in the race to wealth but also the limitations. Like they can't cash our their net worth because of contracts and it would just crash out the companies and such. It gave an example though of a dot com guy who sold out for a few hundred mil and lives the good life. someone in the fediverse responded to another comment I had around this subject and said his name which I can't recall but it sounded like it was the myspace creator (which unfortunately I liked but it died just like my first website I liked was excite but yahoo steamrolled them)

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I had no clue, but it does make sense if you actually think about it. But that also shows that there's some seriously bad rigging issues in this world. I will say that I honestly know nothing, but I do realize that with the right team behind you - you for sure could even get away with murder and come out clean. I think the concept is that the package would be the incentive to be a CEO, but honestly I think there would be individuals lined up to be CEOs with or without such a fine package.

I often think about this sweet woman I met once while down south in Chicago. She was begging outside of RUSH in the freezing cold with absolutely nothing to really keep her from getting frostbite. She was in such a bad way, I don't really believe she's with us anymore, but my heart went out to her then too. I never was a person of means, but I got by okay. I grabbed her what I could, I gave her a hug and kiss, and went on my way. But she was such a sweet woman even though she was missing a hand and begging with one of those fountain drink cups. She had jack squat inside the cup, and the intersection was large and lacked any real point of entry for her. I think about her a lot because I can't really understand why we can have things like marble countertops in this world and not feed and house our people. So in that sense, I get really wigged out. But like I said I don't think we're getting anywhere with anyone by pointing at rich folks and saying "YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK, GIVE US MONEY!"

Also on the homeless brigade, I met Fred Hampton's brother. He was also stuck begging, and probably not of this world anymore. His feet looked like two lumps of frozen shit. They were mashed up so badly that he had to hobble to get anywhere. He was a loving sweet guy, but hot damn it's crazy how this world assigns the haves and the have nots.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

rich people should give us money in the sense of paying taxes and taxes should increase the higher one gets in wealth like any other endeavour. pro league baseball players do not play t-ball and similarly the wealthier an individual or company they higher percentage they should pay. If your so good you should be able to make money at that increased difficulty level but if you can't that is fine as you will make plenty in the lower tax leagues or even fall to the level of us bums and pay next to no taxes (which is what regular folk should be paying)

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, no I hear you there. As in just even pay a quadrant of the norm over none at all. But like I said, I don't think they're ever going to play fair. So now we need to figure out what else can be done because we're focusing too much on the whale and we've got to refocus or we're basically setting our country up for failure in the long-run. I wish I had the answers for what that is though. I am worried that we as a people have really reached peak-overpopulation. But I might just be being a fool. I don't have any right to discredit anyone's existence. I am just worried we kept growing without working on our support systems. Hmm. Gets me grumpy just thinking about it. And yes, the largest issue I would say in America is that upwards mobility is quite difficult. Social services are quite hard to obtain, and maintaining then is equally as difficult. We've all been damned by the bootstrap narrative.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean I don't think we can focus to much on the whale. Its dragging the whole ship in the direction it goes. I 100% think we are overpopulated by a lot, but for me overpopulation is the number of humans that can live a nice modern and life and continue to advance while the planet can recover from most of the resources we take form it and heal the damage we do to it on a yearly basis which would also slow down our use of non renewables till we advance enough to not need them. This to me is about a billion. I think we could go to like 4 but that is a pipe dream situation where we do things as sustainably as possible across the board as a species. The way we actually do things its about a billion to me. I don't think anyones existence should stop but myself and other folks just are not bringing more into existence. Only some of us can do that. Education mostly helps as well as realization. Im sorta lucky because I grabbed a double major and spent five years at the bacheloreate level and then did a year in a PhD program before starting in a career that paid meagerly. If I had done a more lucrative major and gotten going financially I might have had kids but by the time that was even an option we were in the new millenium and things were getting obvious.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I argue that we're overpopulated, but my girlfriend argues that we have so much land and can practice much more efficient forms of farming/housing/trades -> that we don't because of capitalism that it's not the amount of people that we have but more so the greed. Idk though, I think it's crazy that we poo-poo on cats doubling with each generation (fix your cats) but we don't seem to have any issues with us doubling every generation. But anything else is creepily Eugenics like, so eh. But the birth rate has slowed down, so there's that. I know a whole lot of people who are like me and never really had any interest in having children. I always figured if it's something you're interested in pursue the venture. People always say have the cash, but you can raise a kid on nothing and still get by. Just try and be there for the kid as much as you can.

I only brought up eugenics (keep bringing it up?) because there's a sick underlying issue that is going to be more and more present in our lives in that many people are going to be displaced at minimum and killed at maximum over global warming. And it's crazy because we as a people get to say now - when is enough, enough and we pull back and stop living in excess as we do and start doing what's right for the greater good. And that drives me banana bonkers. Because who's to say x-life is more valuable than y? Although I guess we've been down this route before (I mean it's basically the trolley problem right?) and I feel like the large issue as a whole is democrats move too damn slowly (they sit on their hands) and republicans don't do shit but put up straw men and jabber.

If you want kids, and you are in the space that you can have them you really should consider adoption if you can. Or just like, go have a kid. I know that's fucked up to say especially after what we've talked about. But I have a friend who wanted a kid. I mean that's all he wanted, to be a dad. And he has health issues, and he has mental illness. But he just wanted to be a dad, and he works for the public school system so it's not like he's rolling in it. But he became a dad six months ago with a woman who's on-board with him and he's like the happiest I've ever seen him. I really honestly believe if you have a drive in your being to have kids you should find someone else who's about it and consider it only on account of living life half-boiled probably feels rotten and I know I sound anti-children but really I don't have any skin in the game because I never wanted kids so it's easy for me to talk about it. But beyond all the doom and gloom consider enjoying what you can now. But also realize that it's a lifelong commitment, which I think you're smart enough to know.

Also education changes so much it's absolutely insane. I had no clue. It makes me want to slap someone. They keep people from it, and we should be taxing people equitably and providing services for the betterment of everyone. In fact I think just that act alone would unionize America because people would feel less put out. The legalization of drugs would also assist, because even though I am stone sober - if you can't push a bunch of shit garbage on the street what is the next gang war going to be about? Bring education, and legalize this shit you idiots =P! Then again, I heard you need to keep elements of the seedier side of life going. But that might literally just be a means of oppression so in that case? Eh, what do I know =P!

Also, I'd agree that 1 bil seems like a earnest cap and I think it's kind of a double edged sword because I heard so many people call for stable living = kids. But at the end of the day I always think about that mouse study they did.

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[–] PindoLek24@szmer.info 1 points 2 months ago

U can think inaccuracy, incorrectly. You may be able to draw the bowstring, but still miss the target. In the case of meditation, it sometimes takes 10 years to feel something.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

I mean everyone's gotta find the way they can meditate. Or at least, by themselves. Cause you sit me in a temple and I can be as quite as a church mouse outside of discussion periods. But at home it's a bit harder. I use a couple of techniques and switch them up depending on what I need. But I have a song that I will always meditate to that gets me in the chill spot. And yeah it's got some heavy D&B but hell if it doesn't zen me out like a baby being swaddled. So idk?

Also on calm they have an awesome meditation where you find a space in your body that is restless and you sit with it, then you take your minds eye and push it out as far as you can think of - a mountain top, a plane in the sky - whatever and then you yoyo it back and forth like that. I got a year free, and absolutely loved this meditation.

[–] PindoLek24@szmer.info 3 points 2 months ago

And relationships - yes I'm Asperger.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

Simple human does simple things to chill out. Feel this =)

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

An app called Finch, and directed breathing exercises.

Also calling a friend to loudly vent at who has a very unique ability to calm me down again. Usually its enough to have someone listen to me and acknowledge my frustration

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a good one. You're right there. And why I applaud people who can be even-keel in a world like this. It's just something else.

I used breathing zone for so long I can hear the sounds in my head now and don't have the app anymore. Thanks for the response =)!

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I do breathing exercises as well. I think concentrating on the counting keeps my brain busy enough to ignore external stimuli.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

When I need to calm down super fast I literally pretend I am an old school zen-buddhist monk and pull my arms up to my side bent (breathing in) and then push them down saying "zen body, zen mind" all while doing a big long breath out. Plus side is when I do this around people it seems to always illicit laughs, and not in the bad way. So that also helps cool me down. Sometimes being a muppet can be a blessing =P!

I can fidget with my septum piercing all day and make faces like I'm taking a nasty poop or having a really weird think and just be with it because you know - my body so =P!

I take my thumb and rub my finger like I've got one of those worry stones, only it's my index finger instead of a stone. It's a low-low one and Idk if anyone even knows I do this. I also do "wave-toes" which are like flowering my toes back and forth and man it's calming.

Humming is basically like medicine to me. I heard it stimulates your vagus nerve, and I think it's true. I also sing, and think I might be a bit louder overall because of it. I say this because when I cough when I'm sick it's really loud and deep. And I think practicing something that utilizes your diaphragm probably strengthens it. So humming might not work for everyone? But it sure works for me.

Lastly I destroy my cheeky-cheeks. Sorry cheeks. But you're my chew toy.

Actually there's something expressly not mentioned in that if something is distressing me like a five-star alarm I will remove myself from said thing and typically it seems to cause no real trouble. And to keep myself less-stressed over high stress situations I just give things an (insane) amount of practice until things flow so I am less freaked da-fugg out.

As for chill stuff I'm pretty standard in that I love watching things that feel humanistic in some way to me (although I tend to watch animated things more, and will say growing up I dug anime but am not really about it anymore although I can watch some of my older stuff), love hanging with my missus and our pets and doing whatever is "on the agenda," love when the creativity bug bites in any manner (writing, drawing, singing, dancing, sewing, painting, etc.), will always think of books as my best-friends (because I love them dearly), like to cook some good food and chill.

I like nature, and have always appreciated it in whatever form I've been around. But I am having trouble that it seems like anywhere and everywhere I go now it's almost too cluttered, crowded, and everything feels like it's "on-rails." I will say that I think as the population has expanded it has gotten harder for me to live as a whole. But I am doing okay right now. It's weird to love people, but also get incredibly overstimulated by them.

[–] bookcrawler@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depends, but if it's a panic spiral I'll try to make myself as big as possible for a moment. It's a nice stretch but also helps reign in my brain.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

I freakin' hate panic spiraling because it seems like by that point nothing I do will actually calm me down and it takes me like a looonnnggggg time to decompress from it. And by that I mean I can get my booty-bin outta the space of pain, I can do all the stuff I love on the face of this Earth and it'll still be riding me until like....5-10 hours after the fact. Idk if this is normal, but for sure it's a thing for me.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

for me its breathing and stretching and sorta meditation since im never really sure if I achieve meditation.

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I once knew a monk who basically broke it down like this (and I'm talking monk since he was a little one) as long as you focus on one solid thing you're meditating. So he said you can be sweeping and meditating, doing the dishes and meditating, sitting and thinking about driving a sports car you like and meditating. As long as you just focus on that one thing. And I've always taken it as thems the rules since =P!

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah I think I sorta achieve a state sometimes but its generally momentary (or in the best cases seems momentary) but I find it hard to stop the encroaching thoughts.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 2 months ago

Which trees? Oak? Elm? Pine? 🤔

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