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[โ€“] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll answer your question with another question: is it Vegan to eat bacon made from a pig you personally raised up from birth after it dies naturally having lived a full life?

If you define Veganism as a diet, then bacon's bacon. If you define Veganism as a personal reaction to the cruelty of industrial farms, then perhaps this is how you get Vegan bacon. If you define Veganism as something more spiritual, then perhaps desecrating your dear friend's corpse by eating it is even worse.

[โ€“] markr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Iโ€™m in the road kill is vegan camp, so sure after Winnie croaks chow down.

[โ€“] federalreverse@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't roadkill another symptom of human cruelty, i.e. building roads and cars, creating a death trap that cuts through eco systems? The only real difference is that roadkill exists because of carelessness rather than intention.

[โ€“] lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Roadkill is a side effect of our advancement as a civilization. Unfortunately there is no way to avoid using cars or transportation if you want to keep living in our society.

Roadkill is akin to crop deaths, a side effect of our advancements. No other way to keep our society, but animal farming can be completely avoided and it's easy and cheap once you get to it.

[โ€“] federalreverse@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point, the number of cars is about as disconnected from human progress as the consumption of animal products is. Much like we could easily remove the majority of animal product consumption, we could also remove the majority of cars and car miles.

[โ€“] lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being vegan requires only to change your buying choices. What your'e suggesting requires one to plant/locally source everything you consume, work close to your home, and completely change your means of transportation.

Veganism is about not exploiting animals as practicable and possible. Which one do you recognize is practicable and possible for most humans?

[โ€“] federalreverse@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am saying reduce the number of cars, but not to zero. I'd guess that in developed nations, maybe 20% or 30% of cars are actually needed (obviously depending on the country and the local level of car use). Similarly, some percentage of animal products is actually useful even in developed nations (for now), e.g. for pregnant women or people with weird allergies.

And of course, society needs to support lifestyle choices for them to be viable. That's the same for veganism and a life without a car.