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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

This deadline wasn't some unknown thing suddenly sprung upon energy companies, this deadline has been known about for a long time, why have they left it this late? Were they just expecting the government to keep extending the deadline?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Warning RTS electricity meters in 300,000 homes could stop working

I think that it'd be more likely that electricity companies that don't conform to their mandated deadline get fined


surely there's some form of penalty attached to the deadline?


and the funds used to continue this longwave service for a second extension, or the same happen with just government funds, as has already apparently happened once.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The issue isn’t the funds, it’s the practicality. The transmitter needs two obsolete valves to operate, and the BBC bought the entire world’s supply in around 2010, which still amounted to less than ten. When one of the final pair blows it’s the end regardless of money.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hmm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droitwich_Transmitting_Station

The long-wave frequency used was 200 kilohertz (frequently referred to by the wavelength, 1,500 metres) until 1 February 1988[13] when it was changed to 198 kilohertz, and the power is currently 500 kilowatts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longwave_radio_broadcasters

According to this, there are only three other longwave transmitting stations in the world at least as high-power as this station: one in each of Morocco, Algeria, and Poland. So I guess that it's a pretty esoteric sort of hardware.

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t it be possible just to replace the valve transmitter with a digitised version that sent out the same signal?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It would cost millions to design and build it and, as it would be the only one in the world ever built, it would again rely on bespoke components, for a service the BBC has been wanting to close for nearly 20 years anyway and is purely being kept open for the last stragglers to be herded onto smart meters.

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

Surely cheaper than enforcing mass installations. (Although it’s customers doubtlessly picking up this cost.)

[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What if I don't want to change it? I've seen my sister's bills double since she got a smart meter so why the hell would I want to do that? I'm more than happy to keep giving them a manual reading.

What are my options?

I hate this world.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

.... Then the original meter must have been faulty?

All the smart meters do is make it easier to collect the readings (end enable fancy tariffs). The ones in this article are effectively dumb meter versions of the day night tariff options.

[–] scrchngwsl@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago

I'm willing to bet that, since their sister got a smart meter, everyone's bills have doubled.

[–] albert180@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago

Why would her bill double from another meter if her consumption doesn't change?

[–] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is specifically only for meters that can switch between peak and off peak rates. Not all "dumb" meters do this.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then good luck as you embark on your new life without electricity.

[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Haha thank you!