this post was submitted on 29 Apr 2025
970 points (98.8% liked)

News

29127 readers
4913 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

In 2025, the federal minimum wage is officially a “poverty wage.” The annual earnings of a single adult working full-time, year-round at $7.25 an hour now fall below the poverty threshold of $15,650 (established by the Department of Health and Human Services guidelines). The limitations of how the federal government calculates poverty understate how far the minimum wage is from economic security for workers and their families.

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] bdjukeemgood@lemm.ee 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

$15k a year??? That wouldn’t even cover my food let alone a shitty hotel room. Anything below $50k as a single earner is deep in poverty.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, it sounds bad. But there is a bright side, too! The week has 168 hours, which means if you work four full time jobs, you can make $60k a year and you still get eight hours of sleep! /s

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

those are some top-tier grustle tips

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

IIRC, the federal poverty level doesn’t account for housing, transport, utilities, etc… It basically only accounts for food. And even then, it only accounts for the cheapest of the cheap food; You’d basically be eating white rice and instant ramen every day.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What absolute dumbass thought that would be a good metric to track?

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

probably economists and politicians, transit is hard to quantify a minimum of because walking is a technical option in many situations.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago

the goal was to enforce poverty, not to resolve it. this is the system working exactly as intended

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Manipulative liars/vampires who don’t think of poor people are deserving of any kindness or luxury.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Builds strong deficiencies

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For an individual supporting themselves. For anyone with a family, it's been a poverty wage for a very long time. Spoiler, more than a third of minimum wage earners have children to support.

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Um? I'm making more than twice that and I can just barely afford rent, food, etc. I'd hesitate to call anything below $15/hr even remotely livable, and that's out in the sticks.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Poverty wage is not anywhere near a liveable wage. It's the federal definition for "too poor to survive without assistance." A living wage is enough to support yourself, a family, and leaves enough to find personal fulfillment. That's at least two to three times the poverty wage, depending on where you live and how many dependents you have.

FDR intended for the minimum wage to be a living wage, not a poverty wage. The oligarchs that run America prefer a minimum wage be below a poverty wage, because poor people are easier to exploit.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago

it gets darker and more insidious than that. america's definition of poverty is unique unto ourselves. the rest of the world views poverty as a condition in which a person is unable to do all the human things humans do. poverty wages, everywhere else, is anyone not making a living wage. but we, in our incredible exceptionalism, defined our own definition of poverty, and then refuse to acknowledge that more and more people are slipping into it.

the key to understanding why we refuse to acknowledge this is because poverty is enforced. it is always enforced. the natural order of nature is for humans to care for eachother. the greedy parasites who control us though need us to be desperate enough to keep us from realizing we provide them with comforts we do not benefit from because we're just trying to scrape out a basic living from table scraps.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ain't seen nothing yet, price adjustments after tariffs gonna make middle class in great depression queues.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Pretty sure that's the point of project 2025, so everyone is too poor and stuck to fight the dictatorship and no one else can get ahead forcing the them to be a cog in the machine for the 1% until they're dead

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." JFK

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

"They sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind." Hosea 8:7

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 8 points 2 days ago

Jokes on them.

More people who feel they have nothing to live for are more people who are willing to go to extreme measures to punish the ones who put them in that position.

But eggs'll be cheap, right?

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 14 points 2 days ago

CEOs read "minimum wage" and they think "maximum wage".

It's just a branding issue. /s

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The solution is obviously to abolish HHS.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The criteria must be wrong because by these metrics half of Americans are below poverty!

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

by these metrics half of Americans are below poverty!

I mean yeah sure, if we just throw around a random percentage, the metrics are the problem.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago

President Felon will change the poverty threshold to $0.15 to prove everyone is doing excellent.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›