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Do you miss phones with replaceable batteries? By 2027, you won't anymore because, by law, almost every smartphone will have them again.

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[–] sneezy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Remember that consumers expect certain things from smartphones nowadays, which will mean that OEMs can’t just go back to the old way of doing things. An IP68 rating would be very difficult to obtain while still offering a premium-feeling device with an easily replaceable battery, for example. These are hurdles OEMs will need to get over to be in compliance.

this is straight-up BS. there were many phones with ip68 and user-replacable batteries back when sealing the battery in a phone was frowned upon. not all but many.

[–] EunieIsTheBus@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Yurop did it again.

[–] feifei@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

However, there is an exemption for high-performing and durable batteries until 2027. This means devices with high quality batteries that retain over 80% of their capacity after 1000 charge cycles do not need to comply with the removable battery requirement until 2027.

So premium phones like the iPhone would be exempt.

[–] p5f20w18k@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder how apple will react to this

[–] sini@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple fanboy here… but they’re probably gonna market the feature with some cool new trendy name and make the battery replacements proprietary.

[–] Graphine@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean....battery replacements were ALWAYS proprietary. You can't pop a Galaxy S4 battery in a GS 5.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But you can put up a firmware barrier that keeps the phone from booting up, or at least from operating at full advertised capacity, unless it's an "authentic" battery that's been officially registered to that particular phone's serial number, which can only be done via special tools and software that are only available to official Apple repair shops. They've done it with cameras and screens and buttons, why not batteries? It's just another part.

[–] Jesus_666@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

At that point there's no way they can argue that the battery is user-serviceable without extra tools. Sure, they could argue that the law doesn't specify that they can't sabotage the device if you swap your battery but European courts have traditionally taken a dim view of that kind of tomfoolery.

I'm pretty sure that Apple aren't going to risk having to suddenly take all of their devices off the shelves. It's cheaper to comply.

[–] Nevasuc@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Probably voiding warranty for any phone that has its battery replaced by the user instead of having it done at an apple store/apple vertified store. Or some good old planned obsolescence where the phone detects a replacement battery and just stops working as fast as it used to. Anything to get people to buy the next new iphone every year.

[–] eggshappedegg@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not so much the batteries for me but the USB C port that has been my main issue and that damn humidity/water sensor that thinks that I've dipped my phone in water when I haven't

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's part of the problem I have with this. Most electronics life cycle is gone before or around the time the battery is gone. Only people that abuse the batteries by over charging / full draining typically benefit from replacement batteries. -And this just mostly needs awareness.

[–] WireOwl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vast majority of batteries operated devices are stuff that in its use is going to be "abused". The hell is the harm in letting people switch out a fucking battery if that's the issue. Companies won't let people switch batteries out so they are being made. Apple have been fighting tooth and nail over repair shops

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You use Apple? lol.

[–] calvinklein97@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am curious how Apple will get around that this time. I’m almost sure this will be as funny as the whole story about the USB-C cables

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Super capacitor instead of battery. lol