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  • Ukraine says it has liberated four villages in the south-east, calling these the first settlements won back from Russia since Kyiv's counter-offensive began
  • On Monday morning, officials reported that "the national flag is once again waving" over Storozhove, in the Donetsk region
  • A day earlier, footage showed Ukrainian troops celebrating in Blahodatne and Neskuchne - and a minister said nearby Makarivka was also taken
  • The settlements are relatively small - and Moscow is yet to confirm any retreat
  • The Institute for the Study of War backs up Kyiv's claims, saying Ukraine captured "multiple settlements" along the frontline over the weekend
  • On Saturday, President Zelensky acknowledged that the long-awaited counter-offensive was under way
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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An area amounting to about 6 km by 6 km. Still an excuse for cheerleading and manufacturing consent for escalation. One of the villages is like 6 houses.

[–] Kempeth@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny how with certain folks its always the fighting back that's the escalation, never the original aggression...

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah the original aggression. Which one?

[–] zalack@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your head is so far up your own propaganda I can't even tell what you're trying to say here.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Western liberals keep ignoring anything before 2022 in order to create a black-and-white narrative. This leads them to the conclusion that they're fighting absolute evil and so any means are justified no matter how many people will die, and how dangerous and even counter-productive their actions.

[–] Kempeth@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. I don't see Russia as absolute evil. And there are plenty of means the west does not consider justified. Nobody I know falls into either of these categories.

I don't want Ukraine to kill poor Russian sods but as long as Russia kills poor Ukrainian sods I think it's only fair if they get to shoot back.

Most of us just want Russia to go home and let Ukraine be Ukraine.

[–] Blursty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you want the USA to go home?

[–] Kempeth@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Don't get me wrong. I'd be highly surprised if there weren't at least some American fighting in Ukraine on a more than just "personal capacity" but with the fixation the Republicans have with tying Biden to Ukraine it's highly likely that any sizeable involvment would have been been discovered and made public by now.

If you think the Russian Army is fighting the combined western might right now, then I have disappointing news for you.

[–] Chup@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I understand this is a positive news in the first week of the counter offensive, but to me - it makes me feel depressed.

It makes me look at the size of Ukraine and the occupied areas. There are thousands or probably ten thousands of occupied settlements and villages. Reporting 5 of e.g. 18.000 liberated... it is positive, it is a news, it makes me depressed looking at the scaled of what lies ahead in this war to get Russia out of Ukraine.

The thing I am hoping for and expecting, that this is not a continuous speed. In the past, we have seen Russian lines disintegrate, troops flee in civilian clothing and the front lines moved tens of kilometers within a single day.

[–] Kempeth@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

27k settlements according to a quick search. Yikes.

But progress in anything is rarely sweeping and most commonly a matter of chipping away at an issue one tiny step at a time. Environmental issues, social issues. Unless you're finally hitting a watershed moment it's a depressing battle of inches. But you won't ever get the former unless you commit to the later.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's what you said, it is not continuous speed. The offensive may slow down, may accelerate - let's be honest, there is even the chance of failure. However, looking at the last 6-9 months, we should be optimistic. The recapture of a small village may not seem impactful, for people who were born there, lived there until the war or even still live there under Russian oppression - it means the world to them.

[–] dethleffs@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just things fascists say while they murder Poles and Jews.

[–] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're super and are loved... No need to be the token edgemaster 5000 here.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This was literally what Bandyerites, i.e. fascists that assisted the Nazis and did ethnic cleansing all on their own, used as a rallying cry.

[–] peeonyou@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it literally took 1 day for the cia and nafo freaks to overrun lemmy world news..

[–] Protegee9850@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People that call themselves communists but support Putin make me sick.

[–] geissi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Don't you know that Marx himself called for strong repressive governments that order their citizens to attack neighboring countries and specifically target civilians?

[–] Dyce@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

TIL iam a CIA freak