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[–] PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

Women asked for this. No, they demanded it. Even if it came at the cost of making it harder for men to find jobs.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 0 points 10 months ago (10 children)

And what galaxy-brain take would you offer if it were a man in the photo with an identical caption?

[–] PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Is it just me or does it smell like whataboutism in here?

Women DID fight for the right to be able to do this. That’s not a conspiracy theory. They insisted on it.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Women fought for equal rights - for being allowed to do the same things men were, without restriction. Have careers, live their own lives, be equal before the law, not be relegated to the role of housewife/childbearer by default and without being given a choice.

This meme is not about that. It's not even about women. It just happens to have a woman in the photo. This meme is about big businesses routinely and with impunity exploiting their workers. Nobody ever fought for the right to be exploited. Of course, I don't expect someone with a user name like PepeLivesMatter to understand that kind of nuance.

[–] PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, I do understand that nuance, and I appreciate your ability to explain it without resorting to name calling or insults.

You and others are upset not because what I said wasn’t true (it was), but because it’s something you’d rather not talk or even think about. Okay. Point taken. She did indeed not blame men for her situation, at least not directly, I will admit that. Although I’m sure there’s already a feminist somewhere waiting to explain to me how shareholder value is a tool of the patriarchy that was designed for no other purpose than to oppress women.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're not digging yourself out of that hole out of your own making.

And no, I'm not upset about anything you said. Truth has nothing to do with it. What you said was nonsensical, baseless, and not very intelligent. B most people's standards, you're trolling. I've long gotten over being upset by trolls.

[–] PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you aren’t upset, why spend all this time and effort trying to make me regret what I said instead of simply proving me wrong?

If what I said was baseless and nonsensical, it would be easier and more effective to just disprove it rather than coming up with more and more insults to my intelligence instead.

Other people have at least managed to point out that they found it inappropriate because the OP wasn’t blaming men for her situation, to which I have agreed. Yet here you are still heaping abuse over my head and trying to convince me you’re not upset.

Sorry, but I’m not buying it.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you aren’t upset, why spend all this time and effort trying to make me regret what I said instead of simply proving me wrong?

I have explained where you're wrong, to the point that you thanked me for it in your previous post. But you still insist on being right. I can't help you with that, and am not going to either.

Other people have at least managed to point out that they found it inappropriate

And yet you've replied to them in the same vein as you have to me: whining that you're right but being insulted.

Yet here you are still heaping abuse over my head and trying to convince me you’re not upset.

If you'd care to point out which part of my response was 'heaping abuse over your head', then maybe we'd get somewhere. Then again, ask me how much I care. On second thought, don't. You'd just whine about the reply.

Sorry, but I’m not buying it.

Wasn't selling anything. Go in peace, but go.

[–] PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, I thanked you for explaining it without name calling or insults. But then you felt the need to go right back to calling it baseless and unintelligent, thereby erasing any progress that was made.

You already admitted that what I said was true, why go back to insulting me for saying it, when I made you an offer of truce by accepting that it was uncalled for?

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But then you felt the need to go right back to calling it baseless and unintelligent

That was a factual statement, not an insult. But hey, if the shoe fits...

You already admitted that what I said was true

That is provably false. I have done no such thing. Take your gaslighting elsewhere.

[–] PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is provably false.

This you?

Women fought for equal rights - for being allowed to do the same things men were, without restriction. Have careers, live their own lives, be equal before the law, not be relegated to the role of housewife/childbearer by default and without being given a choice.

https://feddit.de/comment/5069083

That's essentially what I said in my initial comment, nothing else. I didn't say they ought to go back to the stove or anything stupid like that. Just that having to go to work to provide shareholder value is part and parcel of making that choice. Men have to do it too.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

That’s essentially what I said in my initial comment, nothing else.

No, that's what you wish you'd said. Your interpretation of your own words is as crooked as that of this meme.

Now go waste someone else's time, I'm done with you.

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