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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

The UK likes to go the other way by talking up a ridiculous goal and then immediately failing it, like "Our goal is to produce zero CO2 and become the global leader in renewables by 2025” and then immediately open a new coal mine.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

That's basically what Germany did. They recently shut down their nuclear plants and restarted their coal plants.

[–] agarorn@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And yet coal power production is practically at the lowest level ever (except for corona months 03/20 and 04/20)

https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=de&c=DE&chartColumnSorting=default&year=-1&month=-1&stacking=stacked_absolute×lider=1&legendItems=000001010000000000000

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Germany is now using coal as base load. The main reason coal has not increased considerably is because all this new generation and loss of nuclear baseload along with limited ng generation has resulted in average energy prices doubling from 2017 to 2021 prices. Simply put the cost of energy is now so high that people and industry is using less. Done large industries shut down with loss of jobs. Solar and wind had been very expensive even with government subsidies. Subsidies that take money out of government coffers resulting in less services. This ignoring the increase in energy importation of which some may be from coal generation.

Shutting down nuclear simply denied millions of people a clean energy source unless they were willing to pay nearly double that of past years.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/germany-goes-all-energy-transition-with-nuclear-shutdowns-2023-04-19/#:~:text=The%20steep%20climb%20in%20electricity,hydropower%20output%20due%20to%20drought.

[–] derGottesknecht@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

You know that with merit order pricing the cost of electricity only depended on the cost of the most expensive producer? So nuclear plants have close to 0 Influence on the price.

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