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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Okay, you tell me exactly what I'm supposed to do.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lots of things but the easiest would be to find local orgs that have already developed political strategies relevant to your local political context and work with them. They can fill you in on the rest.

Climate change won’t be addressed until there is a much larger movement that can flex serious political power. Think civil rights movement—that’s the kind of organizing we need.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Okay, now what can I do when I'm so sick that I have to rest for hours after walking the dogs for 30 minutes?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There is much work to be done and not all of it is physical. I don’t know the specifics of your condition but you are here posting on social media. At minimum, there is likely a need for similar work to be done in support of your local orgs.

Again, if you find some local folks doing such work, I am sure they would help you find your niche.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So you're saying don't look like you're vandalizing an ancient monument during a religious festival held by nature worshipers? I agree and that was my point.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They answered what you can do and you completely ignored it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't ignore it. I read it. What did you want me to say about it specifically?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, something other than your usual ceaseless negativity would be refreshing.

I don't think I've ever seen you post something productive. It's just constant negativity, pessimism, tearing other people or ideas down.

I've never seen you react positively to a positive idea or add anything that would lead to any kind of actual improvement. And then when you ask "what can I possibly do" and someone replies with something you could actually do to contribute to the thing you're complaining about, there's no reply.

I get that you have tough life circumstances, but you're just not contributing anything to anyone with this stuff.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well then you should look through my post history to correct your hilariously false view of me.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

K, I just did. It was pretty reaffirming.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Then you must not have been very thorough, but you go ahead and believe what you like. The amusing thing is that you're berating me for not being productive which doesn't sound especially productive to me. Have you thought of being more productive?

(Also, what a corporate mindset! You must be productive even if you aren't being paid!)

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who am I going to believe, my own lying eyes?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How about my eyes? Like the positive and productive post you made where you lied about what I said?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I never said it was "irreparably damaged by crack seepage." Why are you lying? In my very first post, I expressed relief that it wasn't damaged.

That is what I was hoping to hear.

And I still say doing a stunt that even makes it look like you’ve done some real damage to Stonehenge right in the middle of a religious festival does not make you look like the good guys. People in another thread said it spread awareness. Who isn’t aware? I’m fully aware of climate change and there’s fuck all I can do about it.

But at least it was not permanent vandalism.

https://lemmy.world/comment/10752863

So... Did my negativity and lack of productivity make you illiterate or are you just telling a blatant lie? Because it's one or the other.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I am somewhat undecided about this action. It gets people talking (as we’re doing now) but it may also risk turning people away from the cause, especially those who are only casually interested or aware of the facts or issues.

But my point was your suggestion that everyone is already aware of climate change is absurd. Especially the follow up that no one can do anything about it. Sure, they’ve heard of it, but everyone is continuing to behave as if it doesn’t exist. There needs to be much greater awareness, discussion, and then action on this topic, and until such time we will need to do disruptive things to get people’s attention. I do prefer to disrupt the people most responsible, personally.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Doing nothing would be a start since apparently, you are using that time to disparage the efforts of others.

You don't have to help, even though you have more than enough time from what you are saying. I know, it's not your fault, bla blah, you're a victim. You could just like not have a shitty attitude, that's all.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're right, I will disparage people who think that the way to help is to piss people off.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The main ones being pissed off is the oil industry and that's who you are actually helping.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would the oil industry give a shit if people paint stonehenge?

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They're happy that folks like you are focusing on the people throwing cornstarch rather than the people causing higher acidity in rain that's actually damaging Stonehenge.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the article is focusing on that and I'm commenting on the article.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And the oil industry is very happy that you keep your focus that narrow and you don't like outside of what you're presented by corporate media so we'll done, Shemp.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm keeping my focus that narrow in this comment section for this article. I'm staying on topic. You're being ridiculous.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Whatever you say, Curly.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe do some labor and figure it out yourself instead of trying to pawn that off on everybody else???

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As I said to someone else, the amount of labor I can do right now is about 30 minutes of walking every few hours.

But I'm not sure why I have to do anything to point out that pissing people off is not likely to get people on your side.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're making me explain that there are more kinds of labor than just physical, which is asking me to perform mental and emotional labor just to educate your ignorant ass. You know search engines are a thing right? The Internet, you may have heard of it? It can be used to find information. Asking others to do this for you is imparting labor upon some random and you have been doing it all over this thread. I'm assuming in an effort to play dumb and/or exhaust anyone who thinks differently than you. You may not even realize that's what you're doing, but it is.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I stopped reading at "ignorant ass." Just because I didn't understand what you were trying to say to me was no reason for that. I asked you what you meant so I would understand.

I'm sorry you think people asking for clarification are ignorant asses, but perhaps it would behoove you to be more sympathetic to the ignorant in that case.

I didn't insult you at all.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You kind of did by trying to use your disability card (I've got one too!) to get out of googling what labor means by putting the expectation of telling you about it on me.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I insulted you by using my "disability card?" In what way?

Also, re the meaning of labor:

None of those explain what you meant. I am not psychic.