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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] cstross@wandering.shop 14 points 4 months ago (13 children)
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 15 points 4 months ago (11 children)

N = 2 (this and judge dredd) right now, but was there a rise in fiction in the 70's/80's where they did the 'people live their whole lives in a skyscraper and didn't come out' thing? Is there some underlying societal fear I'm not super aware of? Or am I making too much of two examples?

[–] grumpybozo@toad.social 10 points 4 months ago (5 children)

@Soyweiser It was a bigger theme earlier: 50s/60s. Asimov, Bradbury, and I think Heinlein all used it.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I recall reading quite a few of those, but don't recall any specific building ones, esp not which much themes of 'people stop interacting with the outside world'.

[–] grumpybozo@toad.social 8 points 4 months ago

@Soyweiser Not as a primary focus, but as a background fact, e.g. Trantor in Foundation.

The Caves of Steel was basically named for it, with a major plot point revolving around the fact that everyone is too agoraphobic to have committed the murder because of generations spent living in giant domed cities kept isolated from the natural world.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 7 points 4 months ago

The granddaddy of those would be E.M. Forster’s The Machine Stops, from 1909

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