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Does one have to be an iconoclast or revolutionary these days to be validly left? I consider myself to be left of center, and very much in favor of progressive policies. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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However I find myself being disagreed with quite often, mostly for not advocating or cheering violence, "by any means possible" change, or revolutionary tactics. It would seem that I'm not viewed as authentically holding my view unless I advocate extreme, violent, or radical action to accomplish it.

Those seem like two different things to me.

Edit: TO COMMUNISTS, ANARCHISTS, OR ANYONE ELSE CALLING FOR THE OVERTHROW OF SOCIETY

THIS OBVIOUSLY ISN'T MEANT FOR YOU.

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[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (25 children)

Lemmy has this weird point of view, if you aren't extreme left then you are not left at all. I've seen people make comments like "just be honest you aren't a liberal ".

They want to move the bar so they don't have to claim they are extremist. I wouldn't worry about it.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OTOH, USians have their Overton window so moved to the right, and it continues to move so fast, that it has a visible Doppler effect.

What in the US some people calls "radical ideas", most of the world calls "common decency" or "human rights".

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

True. But big ships turn slowly.

And the US is one hell of a big ship.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 months ago

Who says that ship is turning?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Usually a large sum of smaller, quantitative changes results in a rapid qualitative change.

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