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[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (11 children)

They claim Hillary lost because she went a little left and it is the fault of... left wing voters? Hmm.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

We're seeing it now with leftists who refuse to vote for Biden. Thankfully Lemmy isn't really representative of the population. But they do exist.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We are entering perhaps the most important election in history. I know that's said at every election but this time, this could very well be the last free election we have.

A vote against Biden, regardless of how it's done, is a vote for fascism. Plain and simple. It's no longer theoretical or fantasy. Or exaggeration or whatever the right is trying to paint this as.

Biden won in 2020 because it was a vote against Trump. Not because Biden was a good candidate. It just was not as terrible as Trump.

We are entering an election where Trump is promising to punish his enemies. This rhetoric is dangerous to our democracy and nation. The fact that we are debating this is by itself scary.

Trump WILL bring authoritarianism to our country. He will install himself as king and our country will be a democracy in name only. Hell it wouldn't surprise me if the fascist regime goes on to rename our country "The Democratic Republic of the ~~Gilliad~~ United States" just to keep up appearances.

Anyone who wants our country to be free must vote Biden in November. Is he contributing to genecide? Yes. Is he doing enough for climate change? Of course note. Is he tackling minimum wage? Nope.

But at least he's willing to listen to you. We might even be able to change his mind after he is in his second term.

You will get none of those things if Trump wins.

[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I think this is it. Do you think project 2025 goes away just because Trump does? It'll just be updated for 29 and as soon as the next Republican wins that's it, shows over. We can't keep pretending that winning this election will defeat them once and for all. It's just kicking the nuclear bomb down the road a bit. Eventually it will catch up and we will be living under a dictatorship anyways.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is a terrible point of view.

We can't keep pretending that winning this election will defeat them once and for all.

No one is pretending this. We keep authoritarianism and fascism at bay through constant vigilance. We defeat them by resisting and rejecting them at every turn.

The idea that we should just give up is asinine.

[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

I'm not saying to give up, I'm saying I want to see the Democrats do anything to protect us from a future Republican presidency other than hoping they'll be elected for the rest of time (which is an impossibility let's be real here)

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