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[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

I am against violence while I have no illusion about the fact that it seems necessary because bad humans need to fuck up everything for good humans.

But I want to stay that this is not a call for violence or an expression of my support for it.

But why the fuck does everyone and their grandmother have guns in the us and these people are alive? Isn't the point of the guns to protect the public from tyranny? I mean I don't think it works but that is the reason no? How are tyrannical forces allowed to have openly political activity? You guys don't have guns to fight for your "freedom🦅" it seems but to shoot your child when they sneak back into the house.

In my opinion, it is good that you guys don't murder each other but like... What is the point of those guns if not fighting literal Nazis?

Drop the gun bs or actually fight for your freedom or be honest why you want guns, it is fucked up that you want to be shot by your toddler but you do you, i guess.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even without guns involved, there are many regions with antifascist groups which come and give them a beating (see Patriot Front getting run out of Philadelphia). Collective violent resistance intimidates them. Non-violent tactics are essential, they come first and are more important overall, but violence makes them scare to come outside. Just look at the dissolution of the British Union of Fascists after the '43 Group threw bricks at them enough times for a big example (there are many smaller examples - especially since modern neo-nazis tend to recruit scrawny teens online who can't handle getting beaten up).

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Just to add - there is a reason the right tries to demonize Antifa, because it works and they know it works.

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