PR gives more power to smaller parties as opposed to big ones. Here in Australia we have STV but not PR, and it still sucks. Our democracy is almost as broken as America's. Most people on the left agree with the Greens more than the larger Labor party, but our votes for the Greens don't count. We live in labor/liberal districts, and our votes transfer to Labor. Which is better than letting Liberals win, which is why we haven't fallen to fascism like the US has, but it still sucks. In the last national election, Greens got 12% of the popular vote, but only 2.6% of the seats. Less than a quarter what they deserved! Labor loves non-proportional representation, because it keeps the two party system running. If we had PR, there would be less power in the hands of big parties.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Israel has true PR and look what they’ve done with that: a coalition of small, far-right parties and one moderately large one.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well of course a democratic Israel is going to be fascist, that's the will of the people. Israel is full of Europeans who decided to go colonise the middle east and live in stolen homes for religious reasons. It's high purity distilled fascism. Expecting Israel to turn out lefty is like brewing moonshine in a toilet and expecting sparkling vitamin water to come out.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Only about 27% of Israeli Jews have recent European parentage (as of 2015) and that dropped from 30% in 2008 (and dropped by about 14,000 people in absolute terms). I think if anything this shows that European Jews are either leaving Israel or otherwise not reproducing nearly as quickly as long-ancestry Israeli Jews (which grew from 37% to 44% in the same time span, an increase of 700,000 people).

Source: Wikipedia.

Furthermore, in terms of political support in Israel, the left-right split falls down largely ethnic lines:

The bases of the right-wing parties are non-dominant and low-socioeconomic-status Jews, Mizrahim, Russian immigrants, the National Religious, the ultra-Orthodox, and offspring of the Revisionists, who are more nationalistic and less liberal than the economically better off and Ashkenazi supporters of the Center-Left

Source: Oxford University Press.

So it’s pretty much exactly the opposite of your claim. The people supporting far right governments and the expansion of settlements in Israel are ethnically middle eastern Israelis or Russian-descended Jews, not European Jews or their descendants, many of whom are leaving the country or protesting against the government from within Israel.

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