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[–] Spedwell@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (6 children)

That's not how monopolistic marketplaces like Steam (and Amazon) operate, though. They have "Platform Most Favored Nation" (PMFN) clauses in their terms that mean products sold on the platform can't be sold cheaper elsewhere...

Which means the whole "pass it on to the consumer" can't happen, unless a product risks being de-listed from Steam. It literally removes the ability to compete on price.

[–] Yamayo@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (5 children)

You can find games sold cheaper than in Steam in many places. You can even buy games outside of Steam and they see 0 revenue from it.

Find me a game that has been de listed from Steam because it was sold cheaper elsewhere. You can't, so don't bother.

[–] Spedwell@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Find me a game that has been de listed from Steam because it was sold cheaper elsewhere. You can't, so don't bother.

I'm not going to dig through the web for an example of enforcement (which are not likely to be published anyway), when the only relevant matter is whether the PMFN clause exists. You can count every instance of a direct-from-publisher listing not being ~≤30% cheaper than the Steam listing as evidence that all you need is the threat of enforcement.

There is no reason in a market without this PMFN clause that a publisher wouldn't sell the game at equal or higher margin off-Steam.

You can find games sold cheaper than in Steam in many places. You can even buy games outside of Steam and they see 0 revenue from it.

I would genuinely love if you could point me to an example where the non-discounted price of a game is lower outside of Steam than it is on Steam — I'd love to buy my games cheaper lol.

they see 0 revenue from it

This part confuses me. Are you trying to clarify to me that Steam isn't taking a 30% cut of what gets sold on, say, Epic Games Store?

[–] Spedwell@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To add an example:

Take Cities: Skylines II. It's listed at $50 on Steam, $50 direct from Paradox. If Steam is taking 30% cut, Paradox sees $35 from each sale. Why is Paradox not listing the game at $40? They would earn an extra $5 per sale, and draw more sales.

They have every economic reason to undercut Steam, but they aren't. Like seriously, if not the PMFN, then what's the explanation?

I guess I'm confused. Are you contesting that the PFMN clause has an effect or not? Whether that effect is anticompetitive?

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