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[–] CreativeShotgun@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (38 children)

This man wants to do things that will make me and many people i love dead or suffering. How do you not understand how we could feel this way?

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (21 children)

Because if you start justifying these kinds of things, they will eventually be turned against you and next you know it, your own political representative is being shot at because their opponent's supporters are feeling threatened just as you are (whether they are truly justified in feeling threatened or not, doesn't matter).

Democracy does not work with violence.

EDIT: I'm really curious about the downvoters: do you really think murdering your political opponents is justified? The goal is to vote out the fascists, not become fascists.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Killing fascists makes you a fascist?

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Murdering your political opponents is a fascist tactic.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol that minimizes what fascism actually is. Assassinations have happened throughout history, including before Capitalism and before the crisis within Capitalism that created fascism.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lol

That "lol" is quite unnecessary. There is no need to ridicule me. I would expect better from a mod of a community like this.

minimizes what fascism actually is

I didn't say that is all fascism is, just that it is a tactic within fascism. It can be a part of it. But anyway I don't want to argue what is and isn't fascism, my point is just that political violence and murdering your political opponents does not work with democracy and shouldn't ever be hoped for or wanted, even if it is your political opponent being targeted. I want Trump gone as much as the next guy on the fediverse but I don't want him killed.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

That “lol” is quite unnecessary. There is no need to ridicule me. I would expect better from a mod of a community like this.

I dont need to, but I felt like it. I chose restraint and went with "lol" instead of really getting into how ridiculous and chauvinist of an opinion it is.

I didn’t say that is all fascism is, just that it is a tactic within fascism

You said this: "Murdering your political opponents is a fascist tactic."

my point is just that political violence and murdering your political opponents does not work with democracy

I mean the Soviets murdered the hell out of nazis, so there is a counterexample for you. The cubans also murdered the hell out of high level regime collaborators when batista was overthrown. Another counterexample. I'm not advocating for murder within our political system but like, you're not correct.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

I dont think you know what fascism means

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