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[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

Let's change it to grenades.

People have been killing each other forever. Stabbing someone's chest. Smashing their head in with a rock. Before everyone gets their pitchforks, I'm not saying this is not harmful to the victims or that there should not be consequences for murder. Explosives are just another tool.

At some point this AI-evangelist "it's just a tool" argument stops holding water. We can't just enable all people to do things 1) rapidly and 2) at scale without any consideration for how they will use it. Teenagers doing lewd things with images in the 90's or 80's or whatever period you want to harken back to also didn't have the ability to rapidly disseminate this information to, quite literally, the entire world in a matter of seconds.

Why bother with DUI laws if we're going to go down that road? Why restrict usage of anything with a legitimate purpose?

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Imaginary grenades.

Check out the gaming industry, where a kid from the other side of the world can tell you how they will "kill your mom, r*pe your sister, and make you watch" (sic), just before killing and teabagging your corpse in-game. At some point the "it's just a game" also stops holding water... and yet somehow most people are capable of differentiating the "tool" from the piece of shit using it.

Regarding DUI laws, they're also wrong, focusing on the effect instead of on the cause. AI is not the cause for generating deep fakes, just like DUI is not the cause for getting drunk, and games are not the cause for being a piece of shit.

Ain't it interesting how coming up with a consistent framework, makes it applicable to different areas of life?

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Imaginary grenades.

Having porn made of you is imaginary?

At some point the "it's just a game" also stops holding water...

The video game doesn't produce anything.

AI is not the cause for generating deep fakes,

DUIs can be reduced with public transportation. What do you propose reduces... porn fakes?

Ain't it interesting how coming up with a consistent framework, makes it applicable to different areas of life?

Fucking lol.

My problem with machine learning porn is that it's artless generic template spam clogging up my feed of shit I actually want to see. But you know, to each their own.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

"Porn made of me"? You mean, by paying me to sign an agreement, or by drugging and/or forcing me...? Just to be perfectly clear: I'm not a photo.

The video game doesn't produce anything.

Are we talking about the game's video capture, or the feeling of wanting to puke onto that piece of shit until it drowns?

What do you propose reduces... porn fakes?

Something like "teaching your brat". Porn fakes don't even become a problem until they get distributed to others. Adults can go to jail, it works on some.

My problem with machine learning porn is that it's artless generic template spam clogging up my feed

That... has more to do with tagging and filtering, rather than anything mentioned above.

It's also somewhat weird to diss the "template" of an AI output, when porn videos have settled on a template script for about half a century already. If anything, I've seen more variety from people shoving their prompts into some AI, than from porn producers all my life (japanese "not-a-porn" ingenuity excluded).

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