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[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (14 children)

It's not the age, it's health issues. You choose your leader to govern your country, it seems like Biden can't really dobthat anymore. Maybe if we weren't hooked to live feeds we wouldn't notice. After all, Roosevelt was very ill when he was reelected for the third time in 1944.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

.... trumps not going to govern so I don't know what the fuck you're on about.

[–] WorkIsSlow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Republican voters do not give a single fuck.

There are plenty of people who will vote for the democratic nominee even if it's Biden, but if his performance reduces voter turnout then we get Trump. You overestimate the political literacy of the average person. A lot of people are burnt out or apathetic. You should want somebody who will beat Trump. Why are people hellbent on sticking with the candidate that has a poor approval rating and is polling poorly?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You're 100% focused on the wrong fucking thing. Stop talking about biden and the dnc. Keeping them in the spotlight is what will cause them to lose. Not this whole manufactured biden controversy. Keeping the ball in the DNCs court is the losing play. Your response to my post is the losing play. So, eat me

[–] WorkIsSlow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its unbelievable that you think the problem is not Biden or the Democratic Party's flaws, but talking about their flaws.

Republican voters are happy with their nominee. While the Democratic party has its die hard fans many people vote for them as damage control. Many people can not be bothered to vote because they don't feel like either party represents them. Wheeling out somebody with a sub 40% approval rating and abysmal polling isn't going to increase voter turnout.

My argument is not that Trump is a better option than Biden. My critique is that running Biden shows an increased likelihood of a Trump presidency when looking at polling data. Keeping Biden in is a losing play and no amount of covering your ears when polls are brought up will change that. So, eat me.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You a say it yourself. It didn't matter that the better option is just someone who polls better than Joe you just expect better turn out. It stopped being a debate of moral principle long ago, we are months out it's only strategy now.

Obviously, criticizing the DNC until election day is a losing strategy.

I'm not even saying you can't be critical, just be critical of the real scum bag in all this. Donal Trump. Every once of malice not reserved for the GOP is misplaced.

[–] WorkIsSlow@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I simply don't understand this reply.

Biden looks like a losing candidate. Wouldn't both the moral and strategic answer be to run somebody who can beat Trump? Stopping the Christofacists from getting even more power seems both strategically and morally good.

Stopping that is important so why should the Democratic party not run the candidate most likely to win? If you think Joe Biden is the most likely to win Democratic candidate then I'd argue your misinformed or willfully ignorant.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you think Joe Biden is the most likely to win Democratic candidate then I’d argue your misinformed or willfully ignorant.

Show me your evidence. You can't. You know it doesn't exist, and you're a complete ass for propping up the MSMs bullshit narrative.

[–] WorkIsSlow@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Harris has already been performing better than Biden in polls vs Trump. Other alternatives have been performing similarly to Biden, but that's without considering that they don't all have the name recognition of being the current president and the likely nominee. If the party rallies behind any of those candidates those polls will reflect that change. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

If you remember to open your eyes when you read this please don't fixate on the outliers and try to look at the trends.

Nothing about the polls you posted show kamala having a definitive advantage.

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