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After confirming the authenticity of the Bigo livestreamer with the authorities, The Times searched the Apple and Google app stores for other video chat apps. Reporters identified a sample of more than 80 apps that advertised children before stopping the search. They later contacted Homeland Security Investigations, the government’s main law enforcement group for international exploitation, for comment.

“The number one customer base paying for this abuse is in the United States,” the agent said. “It’s not like they are abused once a day. It’s 50 men getting 50 separate shows. They’ll wake up these kids in the middle of the night to be abused.”

Asked about The Times’s sample of offending apps, Mr. Sainz said a majority had been detected during the company’s standard review process, with an additional 20 taken down after an internal investigation in response to The Times’s findings.

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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 19 points 1 week ago (23 children)

Uh, jesus christ, also what the fuck.

Computers were a mistake, and the internet just made it worse.

[–] ComfortableRaspberry 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What's described in this article is a symptom which is not caused by technical progress but by poverty and greed

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

not caused by technical progress but by ~~poverty and greed~~ capitalism

No need for liberal euphemisms.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Poverty and greed on one side, and fucked up people on both. Someone spending $130,000 over 10 years on this shit is insane from two perspectives...how can you consume this content for one, and secondly, how can you afford all that much money for this?

It doesn't seem like the consumers are messed up by poverty. And I have no idea what's causing them to be messed up, and therefore, I have no idea how we stop the consumers from wanting to consume.

Because like you said, as long as there's a market, this is likely to continue due to the greed and poverty aspects on the "seller's" side...

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Exploitation is fundamental to capitalism. It's just more obvious in this case.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Most capitalist societies draw the line somewhere before "Gaining capital through the Sexual exploitation of children is ok"

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which ones? Epsteins clients came from all over the world....

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

It'd be interesting if cultural standards were upheld unanimously amongst all members of said culture...

Or, conversely, if a culture could be judged by the actions of a few outlying individuals..

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actually consensual economic interaction, aka free market activity, is fundamental to capitalism.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

You consider this consensual?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

Where can I not consent to capitalism in the world, without having to starve and be homeless?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
  1. Got nothin'
  2. Addiction to whatever caused 1 (i.e. they probably can't afford it)
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can just call it capitalism.

[–] zooi@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah child abuse didn't exist before capitalism

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Child abuse for profit?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nor did paying for it apparently. And it certainly doesn't exist in whatever replacement OP wants...

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you saying that child abuse for profit exists outside of capitalism? Any examples?

Look at any authoritarian regime. Here's an article about laws by country, and Russia and China rank very poorly. I don't think we can trust statistics for authoritarian regimes, but those statistics exist if you look.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wrong OP, I was referring to @technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because children are free to be raped, making it a free market activity?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Basically, yes. Everything is commoditized, even the abuse of humans.

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