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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ah, I misinterpreted your meaning. Didn't realize you were saying the alternative was for Bernie to run as third party. While I disagree that that would have ended with a different outcome I can at least see your logic there. Fine.

But as far as the working class thing goes are you just arguing that Republicans are saying more lefty things or are you meaning to imply that they are actually more left leaning than Democrats? If it's the former I don't really see how that even matters. Whether Democrats say "middle" or "working" doesn't really change the fact that the economic policies put forward by the Harris campaign were designed to benefit lower income families and individuals while the policies put forward by the Trump campaign were designed to benefit the upper class. Republicans can say "working class" all they want. It doesn't mean they all of a sudden became progressive. Theyre just lying through their teeth. Just as they've always done. That's not to say no dem has ever lied but there's a vast divide between the two parties when it comes to their relationship with reality.

[–] madcat@lemm.ee -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

the economic policies put forward by the Harris campaign were designed to benefit lower income families and individuals while the policies put forward by the Trump campaign were designed to benefit the upper class.

They were both designed to benefit the upper class, let's not kid ourself. Also let's not forget that as the vice president of Biden, Harris is complicit in genocide. That is reason enough not to vote for her. I for one am glad Genocide Joe is leaving. Trump may be a reactionary bigot but maybe that's exactly what we need.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

They were both designed to benefit the upper class, let's not kid ourself.

Except they objectively weren't. Harris's tax plan would have significantly increased taxes for the highest earners in the US. Whereas Trump is going to significantly cut the taxes of those same high earners. You're either being purposefully "both sides are bad" or you don't know what you're talking about.

Also let's not forget that as the vice president of Biden, Harris is complicit in genocide.

No arguments here. That's not what we were talking about. But let's not pretend that trump is somehow better in that regard when he is so so so much worse. At least Kamala tried to act like she didn't want to support Israel.

Trump may be a reactionary bigot but maybe that's exactly what we need.

Just truely a ridiculous statement.