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[–] DuckWrangler9000@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (15 children)

The thing I really hate about AI is when they say it can make art. For centuries, art has been a form of expression and communicating all sorts of human emotions and experiences. Some art reflects pain or memories experienced in life. Other art is designed out of intellectual curiosity or to evoke thought. AI isn't human, so it can't do anything other than copy or simulate. It's artificial after all. So it makes images. But there's no backstory or feelings or emotion or suffering. It's truly meaningless.

[–] leisesprecher 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Or, maybe, we have to accept that art and all the grandiose and deep narratives around it are bullshit. It's an illusion, it's just a tool so some of us feel more important.

All that crap about not being made by humans is just the fear that the illusion of grandeur of humans might collapse.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I do get the sense sometimes that the more extreme anti-AI screeds I've come across have the feel of narcissistic rage about them. The recognition of AI art threatens things that we've told ourselves are "special" about us.

[–] leisesprecher 2 points 4 days ago

Correct.

And especially artists, or people aspiring to be artistic, are suffering from an inferiority complex which they try to hide behind grandiose "higher values" of art.

AI threatens to expose that art is meaningless unless you can use it to distinguish yourself from the plebs, or those you deem plebs.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Art is in the act of creating it. Not in the final product to be bought and sold on the market.

A kid coloring is making art. The joy they get in the making is the art and is the point.

I feel sorry for so many people in this thread who keep approaching this from the point of view of consumer markets. It doesn't matter if someone can determine an AI colored picture from a child's. The AI derives no joy in the creation. It's not art, but a copy.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Art is in the act of creating it.

This is just your opinion.

Not in the final product to be bought and sold on the market.

This isn't inevitable or necessary.

Personally I enjoy generated art (mostly scifi/fantasy) and I never pay for it.

On the other hand I try to support actual artists because they're most often struggling under capitalism much more than some person using midjourney or wahtever.

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