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Reps: we will crap on the working class
Dems: we will crap on the working class ✨
Leftists: The Dems don't actually help the working class, both parties derive their power and legitimacy from their donors, wealthy Capitalists. They function as businesses that sell policy to the highest bidder. We need a revolution in order for the people to have a real say.
Liberals: Shut up, tankie!
"no, I don't want slow progress, I'd rather have no progress at all"
"what do you mean voting is just a tiny part of making the world a better place, it is completely useless"
"what? ofc I support the working class! I called someone on lemmy a lib for saying trump bad yesterday"
The Democrats are not "slow progress," nor are Republicans "no progress." Both are decay, decline, dying Capitalism in a crumbling Empire. There is no progress to be had with either of them. Voting isn't a tiny part of making the world a better place, it's less than the bare minimum required to enact positive change.
If you understand that Capitalism must decay, and that the US is the world's worst Empire, then you understand that the only way to progress is revolution. Pretending that Leftists "prefer Trump" just showcases that you don't understand the core problem. That your profile banner is an Anarchist flag yet you argue against revolution means leftism is cosplay for you.
how has slow progress worked for you in the last hundred years
I mean... growing up I jacked off to the jcpenny catalog lingerie ads. And now..
6 weeks paid holiday, compensation days for longer work week, protection from unfair dismissal, free health care, 3 months maternity/1 month paternity leave....
Not saying that there's nothing left to do, but over the last 100 years things have definitely gotten better.
The real risk is forgetting that these things were hard won and that if you give people a chance they can easily be lost again.
Most of these were won by leftists fighting on the streets and in the factories, not by centrists.
Worse, for every rare win the centrists get, the republicans seem to get 3. We're the laughingstock of the world on so many data points and theres no interest in centrists dems or republicans to make it better.
Communists don't have a monopoly on "the left". There are socialist liberals who also fought for these things, not just communists.
There was a time when "centrists" were largely Republican. Many of them have jumped ship due to Trumpism, so they are now part of the very mixed coalition that is the Democratic Party. Problem is we were so focused on fighting each other that we forgot to fight the fascist fucks on the other side of the aisle.
Progress has not only slowed down but gotten worse. Workers today are working longer hours for less pay then in a very long time all while their paycheck goes less then it has, meanwhile Kamala promised to make things even worse.