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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perception is (unfortunately) reality. While the campaign website and position papers were solid - especially contrasted with Trump’s “concept of a plan” nonsense, if you don’t effectively communicate how those plans are going to impact voters positively, it isn’t going to help you.

Biden did in fact win the primary in 2024 before he dropped out - as the incumbent he massively benefited from recognition and campaign staffing, but he still had to run. Had he kept to his “one term president” statement, there would have been an open primary instead of Harris’s ascension.

Corporate news and engagement driven profit motive has poisoned democracy for a long time, yellow journalism dates to the 1800s. A mad dash to make a network of “liberal Joe Rogan podcasts” will be effective for direct messaging. But if your messaging is still a defense neoliberalism and globalization, you are going to keep losing. To someone for whom having an extra $50 in their pocket is a big deal, the centrist-Dem message is not worth considering. Paid maternity leave, free healthcare, childcare credits, food stamps, stable employment, worker protections, etc are way more important to working poor voters.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Agreed on the Perception and Primary points.

A mad dash to make a network of “liberal Joe Rogan podcasts” will be effective for direct messaging.

Do you remember Air America? It was back when radio was a thing, but still. No, it doesn't work. Because good liberal communication is be default boring - it's full of facts and nuance and it lacks exclamation points and breaking news chyrons and the rest of modern right-wing propaganda. When it uses them - it doesn't work.

But if your messaging is still a defense neoliberalism and globalization, you are going to keep losing.

I don't even know what those things are. So . . . good news there, I guess.

To someone for whom having an extra $50 in their pocket is a big deal, the centrist-Dem message is not worth considering.

That's not true in several ways. We can review economics, we can review the platform policies, we can see how a Democratic position is the much more beneficial one to our $50 peeps, but if they don't get jazzed by it and instead vote (or allow) the racist rapist to win - that's totally on them. There is no further discussion at that point. "Know who you're voting for and why" is ultimately not the DNC's responsibility. They made all the information as available and widespread as it was possible to do.

Paid maternity leave, free healthcare, childcare credits, food stamps, stable employment, worker protections, etc are way more important to working poor voters.

All of which came from the Democrats. Not Jill Stein, not "nobody", and sure as hell not the republiQan party. All of it is the party they should vote for. Working poor voters just shot themselves in the crotch because of outrageous ignorance and love of violent rhetoric. Hooray. Much messaging very win.