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[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Unfortunately the genders are on opposite sides here but compare these two graphs and tell me the bombing is not indiscriminate

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (12 children)

They do look pretty similar to me, but can't say without numbers. Keeping in mind the population graph is a couple years old - half of a bar height - they both show a minor peak/inflection around age 30 that's maybe 2/3 of the major peak around 5. Babies seem to be spared from the bombing, but that could be fewer births or increased non-violent infant mortality.

IMO, it's not a great data set to claim Israelis are intentionally targeting children, but it is pretty good for saying they are not intentionally targeting military-age men.

[–] hannesh93 -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's just a very smart way to spread propaganda by using a real statistic out of context.

Of course "70% of the victims are either children or women" sounds horrible - until you realize that a majority of the population there in underage (and therefore children) and that Hama's is actively using underage children as soldiers - and if you look at the difference between the age structure and the casualties adult males are more likely to be victims than the other groups which are actually underrepresented.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Of course "70% of the victims are either children or women" sounds horrible

That's because it is horrible. The vast majority of Israel's victims are innocent and that includes adult males, the vast majority of whom are also innocent.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

until you realize that a majority of the population there in underage (and therefore children)

Why is that tho?

What do you think has been happening there for 70 years to cause so many people to die either as adults or before becoming adults that could have resulted in this unique situation when practically every other country is facing aging populations and lower childbirth rates?

Why do you think all those children Israel has killed won't grow up to be adults?

And what do you think happened to all the children born in Gaza 20 years ago?

[–] hannesh93 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Almost all poor countries have a demographic like this.

Palestine is among the poorest countries in the world

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

So you are basically stating that since this graph looks like a countries' normal age demographic, Israel is randomly bombing cities without any discrimination, which is a war crime. We agree with you.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Hamas does not use children as soldiers. There would not be any reason for them to do so, as they lack weapons not manpower.

adult males are more likely to be victims than the other groups which are actually underrepresented.

Only slightly. The reason is similar to how America conducted itself in Iraq. Every adult male is considered a valid target with zero evidence required.

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