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Anon doesn't tip (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ayup. I live in a non-tipping country, but in the US, well....

  • the farmer doesn't deal with the customer
  • the logistics company doesn't deal with the customer
  • the inspector doesn't deal with the customer
  • the manager doesn't deal with the customer
  • the cook doesn't deal with the customer

It's an arsehole tax

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you don't think restaurant managers deal with customers than all I can say is I'm so happy for you for never having to work in that industry lol. All of the other people you named also have customers they deal with except maybe the cook. Logistics company is the farmer's customer, restaurant owner is logistics company's customer, etc. All of said customers can also be arseholes.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Managers mostly placate and throw their waitstaff under the bus.

And no, logistics companies do not deal with the restaurant patron, the fuck are you on

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I didn't say restaurant patron. Usually there is an employee or even the owner (what i said in my previous reply - not patron) of a restaurant that has to order and receive ingredients and other equipment to run the business. Suppliers also have employees that negotiate and coordinate deliveries with these restaurant staff. In this specific situation, the restaurant managers/owners are the customers of their suppliers.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you're saying the restaurant owners should give the suppliers a good tip if they're polite and efficient? Nuance is hard

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not saying they should more than I'm asking why they shouldn't

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Because being polite and accommodating to people who are being shitty to you isn't important for those jobs.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And i wasn't talking about logistics customers. I was very clearly talking about the restaurant customer, whom the waiter deals with.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So why should only restaurant customers tip? Why should only waiters expect tips?

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Jesus christ dude, let it go.

You know why tipping is a thing in the US, and as I clearly stated, I don't live in a tipping country

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Me too - though I've lived in both.

Choosing to frequent a business that you know underpays their workers, where you know those workers rely on tips to survive, then choosing to take their labour and not pay for that labour isn't an arsehole tax - it's an arsehole subsidy, and it's the workers footing the bill.

I think workers should be paid enough to live comfortably without relying on tips, and that they should be a nice, but entirely unnecessary option - but you don't get to steal workers' labour just because you disagree with tipping.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

An arsehole tax that you don't need to pay if you are an arsehole?

How would that work?