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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 64 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Spoken like someone who hasn’t figured out that it was all a ruse from the beginning.

“Biden has BETRAYED Israel, he paused weapons, he pushed for a cease-fire. He yelled at Netanyahu and threatened some sort of mild theoretical consequences if he just rolled over Gaza with a line of bulldozers and killed 90% instead of 10%. We need him out NOW.”

“Biden has BETRAYED the people of Gaza by failing to prevent Netanyahu from the war Netanyahu unilaterally started, sending weapons shipments like every other US President has always done, also don’t pay any attention to the substantial differences between Harris and Biden on this issue, just focus on the fact the we need him out NOW I mean her.”

“Biden has BETRAYED the people of middle America by letting millions of immigrants in, shutting down Trump’s most horrible policies, migrant crime, look at this person whose daughter died. We need him out NOW.”

“Biden has BETRAYED immigrants by failing to completely undo decades of racism in immigration, only shutting down the most heinous 30% of Trump’s policies even with the Republicans fighting tooth and nail to stop him shutting down that 30%. It’s all his fault, also he made it worse in some vague emotionally-loaded ways. We need him out NOW.”

And the centrists bought it, and the leftists bought it too, and they never even compared notes to realize they were getting the exact opposite messaging and a good part of all sides of the messaging was made-up emotionally loaded lies tailored to what would make an impact. Most of the stuff about Biden just got reused against Kamala Harris unchanged, and it was so well-worn by that point that it still worked.

And they never paid all that much attention to what they were getting in, when they got him out now I mean her.

And now, we’ve got it in instead, and god help us.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Am I the only one who believes we shouldn’t pin foreign policy as a deciding factor on who to elect for president? Hear me out first…

That is not to say that how the US responds to Israel and Gaza is not important. Genocide is never the answer. What I’m suggesting instead is that a president should be elected primarily on domestic policies, not foreign ones.

Ok, thanks for reading — commence downvoting. 😊

[–] neanderthal@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Am I the only one who believes we shouldn’t pin foreign policy

We don't have access to the same information they do, so we can't easily judge their decision. The POTUS gets to have conversations with world leaders. These conversations convey attitudes, view points, and information we don't have. They have the CIA, am ambassadors that are experts in the respective culture and country, and DIA that they get information from.

For all we know, Israel was going to nuke Gaza and Biden talked them down. Also, I can all but guarantee Hamas would be doing worse if the roles were reversed:

https://www.adl.org/resources/article/hamas-its-own-words

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Some extraordinary mental gymnastics to justify genocide. maybe theres something we dont know that justifies it, so its justified

[–] neanderthal@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

maybe theres something we dont know that justifies it, so its justified

I'm not saying genocide is justified. I'm saying there is a lot we don't know about the situation. We don't have the intel, we don't know what was said in private conversations between Biden and Netanyahu. Consider the fact that Hamas was using a hospital to store weapons. That means the hospital loses its protected status and bombing it isn't a war crime according to the Geneva conventions. There is also inevitably a lot of propaganda. Maybe you are correct and Biden fully supports the genocide. I highly doubt that. It doesn't negate my point that there is a lot about the situation that we don't really know. Hamas sucks. Israel sucks. It's a dumpster fire.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

If you dont know, you dont know. Israel and Biden could be even more of a monster than we know publicly. You're still trying to use ignorance as a license for genocide

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