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Where to go from here? (pawb.social)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Mora@pawb.social to c/lgbtq_plus@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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The US seems to turn red. While I am living in Europe I am already wondering where I should go. Is there somewhere in this world where being LGBTQ is not a constant battle and where it will likely stay that way? Because typically the insanity coming from the US swaps over to EU and many states here are already on their way to fascism on their own.

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[–] Mora@pawb.social 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am from Germany as well. And I agree right now it is okay. But we are on a downwards trend (just this week a queer bar has been set ablaze). And when I look towards the next election I fear that this downward trend could go get even worse.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Right, I kinda forgot that.

AFD and CDU really are a thing, arent't they.

But I think that the community here is too strong to back down now. Germany has been very open and encouraging towards queer people. I'm assuming that most of the voters for these parties are older, but I have also heard that many youthy people voted for AFD, which is still very surprising to me. I am genuinely interested what they see in these parties. Or more generally: What about rightish parties is appealing? Is it just aw yeah, punk, we go against the grain! or something else?

The Netherlands are also an interesting place for me, they seem to be a rather social country and I like the way they handle energy and piracy.

[–] rumschlumpel 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

AFD and CDU really are a thing, arent’t they.

BSW is also hostile to LGBT+ - they're not as open about it, but e.g. the issue with the rainbow flag in Neubrandenburg shows they're certainly no friend of the queer community.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right, I also completely forgot BSW exists... But I guess it makes sense that they'd be hostile towards queer people, since old people vote for em and that's probably what most BSW voters would like to happen

[–] rumschlumpel 2 points 2 weeks ago

It also makes sense because BSW is quite clearly a Putin-proxy.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

A big factor is probably that the AfD has an actual large tiktok presence, and if that's where all the zoomers are, many are bound to fall into that echo chamber. It's the same thing people see in assholes like Andrew Tate.

I saw some AfD tiktok clip that literally said "Echte Männer sind rechts. Echte Männer wählen AfD." Felt like it should've been a parody. But apparently that's effective.

I really do think that actually making organic seeming tiktok content (as opposed to obviously awkward content where the politician barely gets whats going on) would help against the radicalization of the youth.